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[–] Blodyck@alien.top 1 points 10 months ago (2 children)

It's incredible how Botafogo fucked up the title. They could very well end up in 6. place.

[–] 50-50WithCristobal@alien.top 1 points 10 months ago (1 children)

They had the best 1st half of the league in history and are now having the second worst 2nd half only ahead of the already relegated America MG.

[–] earbleedingcountry@alien.top 1 points 10 months ago

Goias also. 47 points in the first half and now 14 points from 15 😬

[–] Nome_de_utilizador@alien.top 1 points 10 months ago (3 children)

How did botafogo actual fuck the tittle? Werent' they like 12+ ahead at some point? Unreal bottlejob

[–] MrRonald2796@alien.top 1 points 10 months ago (1 children)

They lost Luis Castro (who managed them in the first half of the season) to Al Nassr, Bruno Lage came in and they started to implode afterwards, he has been sacked already, but the matches they lost with him were the most crucial ones.

[–] AJCRebelo@alien.top 1 points 10 months ago

This is the problem with Portuguese managers, they use Brazil as a stepping stone. Of course Brazil have a good championship, is the same language (Portuguese) and they pay good money compared to most teams in Portugal outside the big 4 (Porto, Braga, Sporting and Benfica). Any Brazil team need to put a huge release clause because of this.

[–] Due-Memory-6957@alien.top 1 points 10 months ago
[–] 50-50WithCristobal@alien.top 1 points 10 months ago

Lost the long term coach and now they are playing under their 5th coach in the league.

[–] cannednopal@alien.top 1 points 10 months ago (3 children)

is it always 4 teams relegation?

[–] caiusto@alien.top 1 points 10 months ago

Always has been 🌏👨‍🚀🔫👨‍🚀🌌

[–] bread-dreams@alien.top 1 points 10 months ago

yeah it's brutal

[–] lsilva231@alien.top 1 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Yes. It’s a lot better than only relegating 3 teams.

[–] Xehanz@alien.top 1 points 10 months ago (1 children)

My hot take is that there should be 6 teams relegated. So that some teams play in the Sul Americana while in Serie B.

[–] 3-0againstliverpool@alien.top 1 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Well, teams can actually play in Libertadores whilst in Serie B by winning Copa do Brasil. Happened to Palmeiras once.

[–] heitorbaldin2@alien.top 1 points 9 months ago

Santo André and Paulista won Copa do Brasil in 2004 and 2005. Both was Série B teams at time.

[–] Zepz367@alien.top 1 points 10 months ago

All time choke by Botafogo

[–] javierich0@alien.top 1 points 10 months ago

As an outsider, I hope Palmeiras or Flamengo win.

[–] iurysza@alien.top 1 points 10 months ago

And we have about 7 teams fighting for a relegation spot too.

[–] flaycs@alien.top 1 points 10 months ago

Dale gremio!

[–] zeusteixeira@alien.top 1 points 10 months ago (1 children)
[–] OstunTheRedHead@alien.top 1 points 10 months ago

My porreta 😭

[–] CoolstorySteve@alien.top 1 points 10 months ago (2 children)

Never even heard of Bratangino

[–] Miglekk@alien.top 1 points 10 months ago (1 children)

They are an old kinda traditional club that got bought and became a new red bull bitch
Nothing against them, they just have a very small fanbase but are very well-managed. They had a very good football director that just signed with Monaco

[–] AJCRebelo@alien.top 1 points 10 months ago (1 children)

...and a very good manager. I bet Palmeiras go for him if Abel leave.

[–] saint-simon97@alien.top 1 points 10 months ago

? Are you talking about the guy who flopped everywhere except Bragantino in the past decade

[–] Nome_de_utilizador@alien.top 1 points 10 months ago

Red bull bulshit

[–] LunarRaven7@alien.top 1 points 10 months ago (3 children)

How an 8th place team managed to win the copa is beyond me.

[–] lsilva231@alien.top 1 points 10 months ago (1 children)

They sacrificed games in the league to rest players for the Libertadores. Almost every team does it.

[–] Long-Shock-9235@alien.top 1 points 10 months ago

Yep. And they dont give a shit about the brazilian league right now.

[–] Sdnz0r@alien.top 1 points 10 months ago

It's pretty common for the teams who go further into the Libertadores to sacrifice the Brazilian League since our calendar is insane and most teams don't have enough players to keep the same level on both competitions. Palmeiras in 2021 finished 7th for example and Flamengo last year finished 20 points behind the winner

[–] Zeca_Pagodinho_13@alien.top 1 points 10 months ago

Brazilian teams that go far in the Cups end up playing around 70 games or even more.

Brazil is also a really big country and most clubs can't afford to have a big squad filled with quality players so they end up focusing in one competition when they aren't close to winning the league title.

[–] MrRawri@alien.top 1 points 10 months ago

3 points in the last 21 is some insanely bad form, what the hell happened to Botafogo...

[–] dumbSavant@alien.top 1 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Botafogo have somehow connived to still not win in 5. Wow

[–] Xehanz@alien.top 1 points 10 months ago (1 children)
[–] dumbSavant@alien.top 1 points 10 months ago

Showing solidarity with Union Berlin.

[–] PM_ME_SOME_LUV@alien.top 1 points 10 months ago

Damn, I was really hoping for Botafogo to win. They had such a nice lead

[–] SodaDustt@alien.top 1 points 10 months ago

Botafogo is literally me in Football Manager

[–] BalanceThat@alien.top 1 points 10 months ago (1 children)

We in need for a Bottle Job Cup.

Arsenal, Botafogo, BVB, you can put Marinos there too...

[–] Salibascored@alien.top 1 points 10 months ago

Get HSV in there too

[–] The_Goat_Charmer@alien.top 1 points 10 months ago (2 children)

Damn Gremio has some shit defense for a team in the title race.

[–] jebaespinhosa@alien.top 1 points 10 months ago

We had the best defence players some years ago, when Kannemann (not playing well anymore), Geromel (retiring) and Grohe (transfered) were playing together. Today is almost just Suarez playing alone, he is trully carrying the team. One of the best attack and the worst defence in Brasileirão.

[–] abc_yxz@alien.top 1 points 10 months ago

Suarez effect innit? See Liverpool in 13/14...

[–] IllIntention342@alien.top 1 points 10 months ago

Crazy thing