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[–] jadero@lemmy.ca 11 points 11 months ago (1 children)

I've said it before, and I'll say it again: This is why I think we cannot deal with climate change in any meaningful way. Not "will not," "cannot."

We have the technologies and some of them, like nuclear power, have been available for more than 50 years. Others, like residential construction for passive heating and cooling, have been developed and proven at least 40 years ago, and still aren't found anywhere in our building codes. "But wait," you say, "we didn't know about climate change 40 or 50 years ago!" Well, maybe you, personally, didn't know about it. Maybe you missed the articles in the back pages of the newspaper. Maybe you weren't even born yet. Maybe your governments, like mine, have never seen fit to ensure that this stuff was incorporated into the curriculum. But I was reading about "the greenhouse effect" and likely consequences and possible timelines c. 1970. You can be sure that scientists were sharing what they knew with the economists and governments of the day.

We have the techniques and some of them, like high density housing and public transit and walkable cities, have not just been available for 100 years, but have actively been dismantled after having been part of the urban lifestyle for decades. "But wait," you say, "we didn't know about climate change 100 years ago!" Well, quite apart from the work being done 150 years ago that raised the possibility, we did have experience with fossil fuel pollution and it didn't take a genius to figure out that limiting the demand for fossil fuels would be just a generally good idea.

So what's stopping us? The same thing that has always stopped us: A combination of territorialism, greed, fear of change, and the inability to process large numbers, small growth over long periods of time, and compounding effects. These are all innate human weaknesses that seem to be our evolutionary heritage.

[–] grabyourmotherskeys@lemmy.world 7 points 11 months ago (1 children)

I agree. The alarm has been sounding loud and clear my entire life...

[–] floofloof@lemmy.ca 4 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (1 children)

I've been aware of it since the 1980s, and no one in their right mind can miss the dramatic changes that are happening. Every summer now, the air is brown and smells of smoke, and we fear for where the fires will go. It's no longer a season to look forward to. How can people not be distressed by their world literally burning around them? I always thought that the deniers would melt away when the effects became unmistakable, but instead they seem to retreat further and further into a posture of aggressive denial.

[–] grabyourmotherskeys@lemmy.world 2 points 11 months ago

I live in Alberta and normally there would snow and winter conditions.

Currently feels like mid-October, not late November. Precipitation seems almost nonexistent.

If things don't change soon I can't imagine we get too far into late Spring before the wildfires start.

I've lived here about seven years and the change has been dramatic.

[–] MyFeetOwnMySoul@lemmy.ca 6 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Well now, this is a very sad article. It seems the harder we row forward towards climate action, the harder regressives row backwards. Worse yet, they seem to be stronger rowers

[–] FunderPants@lemmy.ca 3 points 11 months ago

Sane people need to win everytime to entrench positive changes. Regressive only need to win once to tear it down.