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If they're trying to attack all of Lemmy, or the whole Fediverse, they're doing it wrong. lol

It's like obvious spam emails that put no effort into appearing legitimate. You have the spirit of it, but your heart is in the wrong place.

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[–] kd637_mi@lemmy.sdf.org 83 points 2 years ago (4 children)

Because of the unfortunate centralisation that's happened, with so many people being directed to lemmy.world or choosing to go there, a big DDoS attack on world would disrupt a lot of communities that people on other instances use. It's in everyone's interests to spread the load more, which is why I find it sad when some communities migrate to world. UnixPorn was one, although it was already on lemmy.ml which is a larger instance too

[–] Rognaut@kbin.social 23 points 2 years ago (1 children)

I made a kbin before I made a lemmy account. So when one stops working, switch to the other. Although I do like the apps for lemmy much more (sync).

[–] BedSharkPal@lemmy.ca 18 points 2 years ago

Could also just make a Lemmy account on another instance?

[–] flameguy21@lemm.ee 15 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Yeah, there's so many communities on world that even if you're on another instance, a good chunk of content just isn't available.

[–] OtakuAltair@lemm.ee 6 points 2 years ago (2 children)

Don't the communities work even while the instance is down?

I suppose modding them while down would be an issue

[–] Aux@lemmy.world 6 points 2 years ago

How do you imagine them working if their home instance is down? You can only see the cache of old posts and your comments won't propagate outside your own instance. If LW is down, everything on LW is down effectively.

ActivityPub is an email inspired P2P-like protocol. Running communities over it is a hack.

[–] jcg@halubilo.social 5 points 2 years ago

Not in the way you think. Yes, you can still comment and post in your own instances version, but for other instances to see it it'll have to go through lemmy.world first and forwarded on. I think it's a bit murky when it comes to comment replies, though, I believe those do get propagated directly to the instance originating the comment (i.e. if a beehaw.org person comments and you reply, they get it sent directly), but you can see how disruptive it is.

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[–] thelastaxolotl@hexbear.net 44 points 2 years ago (2 children)

On the bright side, it makes people go to other instances instead of centralizing most the lemmy users on one big one

[–] Zink@programming.dev 12 points 2 years ago

Yep, living this one myself today!

[–] jcg@halubilo.social 3 points 2 years ago

I think the bigger issue is many of the apps that are coming out (which imo would be the main point of entry for less techy users) point to lemmy.world as the default instance.

[–] jack@monero.town 34 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

The lemmy network spreads out and gets better the more it is attacked. Perfectly antifragile

[–] Kolanaki@yiffit.net 32 points 2 years ago (1 children)

I'm pretty sure they only have beef with Lemmy.World for being banned from it.

[–] extant@lemmy.world 9 points 2 years ago

That or they're running an instance and want people to leave here and join theirs. Would make sense for someone who wants to manipulate content and people, crush the popular instance and you're more likely to inherit those users.

[–] Defiant@lemmy.cafe 27 points 2 years ago (2 children)

I see a lot of people sticking to one instance. I try to use different ones to mix it up. Yes it’s annoying losing your subscriptions but every instance has a different vibe and community which I like

[–] eric5949@lemmy.cloudaf.site 20 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

Using my own instance I guess if it's getting ddos'd I know someone's mad at me specifically lol

[–] Defiant@lemmy.cafe 2 points 2 years ago

Yeah I’m using a smaller instance but love the vibe on smaller ones. I’m glad I can experience the growth of the fediverse.

[–] transistor@lemdro.id 16 points 2 years ago (2 children)

There are scripts that let you import your subscriptions from other accounts.

[–] Blaze@sopuli.xyz 7 points 2 years ago
[–] Defiant@lemmy.cafe 1 points 2 years ago

That makes a big difference for me knowing about that now. Thx :D

[–] asteriskeverything@lemmy.world 27 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

Oh that's why it keeps going down?! Lol what a dumb waste of time and effort.

I'm happy on .world and don't mind finding something else to do when it's down.

[–] Coreidan@lemmy.world 8 points 2 years ago (1 children)

The hilarious part is they are probably paying to use some ddos service too.

[–] gigachad@feddit.de 1 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

Yep. You need to make a lot of requests to make a site go down, especially for a longer time. And for that you need a lot of computers. I doubt a lot of people have some sleeping bot nets available that they can use whenever a site admin was mean to them. DDOS as a paid service is pretty established nowadays, so imagine some guy investing his valuable buttcoins for this shit.

[–] agamemnonymous@sh.itjust.works 25 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Those spam emails are obvious on purpose, so that all their responses are from the most gullible idiots.

[–] thrawn@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago

Spam calls and interactive emails are, but phishing emails have nothing to lose from better design since they’re just collecting data. Some of them are actually pretty well done, to their credit.

[–] guts@lemmy.ml 19 points 2 years ago

The power of decentralization.

[–] gabe@literature.cafe 17 points 2 years ago (1 children)

I think it might be someone with a grudge.....

[–] Rocketpoweredgorilla@kbin.social 34 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (5 children)

It is, or at least partially... From what I understand a user(Lmao/Angled) was "sub-lemmy camping" (took up thousands of popular sub names and wasn't doing anything with them) so lemmy world banned him from that instance. He had a hissy fit and "vowed revenge" and has been attempting to do as much damage to .world as he/they could since. I can't find the original post but https://old.lemmy.world/post/943832 and https://old.lemmy.world/post/1720870 has a bit of detail.

Edit: added some info

[–] Chriszz@lemmy.world 15 points 2 years ago

Wow what a complete loser. Reddit mod behavior

[–] grte@lemmy.ca 11 points 2 years ago

If this is accurate it's particularly funny in light of the fact that every instance can have a community of a given name. It's not taken for every instance once one instance makes a community of a particular name, haha.

Oh that's juicy. It's like arch nemesis type stuff

[–] Blaze@sopuli.xyz 2 points 2 years ago

Interesting drama

[–] ColdWater@lemmy.ca 15 points 2 years ago

From what I heard, the Lemmy.world ddoser got banned from the instance that's why they ddosing it

[–] deFrisselle@lemmy.sdf.org 13 points 2 years ago

Petty person doing petty things Just go forth and create communities across the instances SDF is pretty nice and has recently spun up a hand full of regional Lemmy instances

[–] AntiOutsideAktion@hexbear.net 10 points 2 years ago (2 children)

Lemmy...world? Huh. I never saw an instance like that. shrug-outta-hecks

[–] TimLovesTech@badatbeing.social 5 points 2 years ago

I think the issue more ppl see with this is the communities there are now down also, not just not being able to login.

[–] lckdscl@whiskers.bim.boats 5 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

No worries, they're just being considerate by "preemptively saving" all hexbears from the inconvenience of experiencing constant outage every day.

shrug-outta-hecks

[–] ThereRisesARedStar@hexbear.net 1 points 2 years ago

Very considerate of them

[–] FartsWithAnAccent@lemmy.world 5 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Yeah, I usually just switch to sh.itjust.works but I've been looking at Kbin.social too.

[–] gullible@kbin.social 6 points 2 years ago (1 children)

We have cookies and the ability to block entire instances.

[–] FartsWithAnAccent@lemmy.world 4 points 2 years ago (2 children)
[–] squiblet@kbin.social 8 points 2 years ago (2 children)
[–] dandroid@dandroid.app 9 points 2 years ago (1 children)

My favorite part about oatmeal raisin cookies is that everyone else avoids them. So I eat the others first the same time everyone else is eating them, then I get an entire sleeve of oatmeal raisin to myself.

[–] Default_Defect@midwest.social 2 points 2 years ago

The only time oatmeal raisin is bad is when you're expecting chocolate chip, and even then, its still good.

[–] FartsWithAnAccent@lemmy.world 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

I've had good oatmeal raisin cookies before...

[–] squiblet@kbin.social 2 points 2 years ago

Well, look at your user name.

[–] gullible@kbin.social 7 points 2 years ago

Someone demolished the gingersnaps but there should still be a plate of chocolate chip and persistent HTTP floating around.