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[–] Knorff@alien.top 3 points 11 months ago (2 children)

The English line-up was decided by a FA committee. Every player was nominated for a certain position and had to play this position.

The Hungarian line-up was decided by their coach. Especially their forwards didn´t care about positions.

You can see why Hungary won and England was very confused the whole game.

Extra info: The statistic was around 35:5 shots on goal for Hungary.

[–] mexploder89@alien.top 1 points 11 months ago (3 children)

Extra info: The statistic was around 35:5 shots on goal for Hungary

And England scored 3? Damn

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[–] el_brahmo@alien.top 1 points 11 months ago (2 children)

Ist’s the match of the century the 1970 WC semi final match Germany against Italy ?

[–] Schnurzelburz@alien.top 1 points 11 months ago

Yes.

https://www.fifa.com/fifaplus/en/articles/100-great-world-cup-moments-qatar-2022-10-game-of-the-century-italy-west-germany-1970

Not surprising that the 3-6 would be the match of hte century in Hungary, though.

[–] unorthodoxEconomist5@alien.top 1 points 11 months ago

Depends, some consider France Brazil in 1986

[–] Aenjeprekemaluci@alien.top 1 points 11 months ago (6 children)

What would have been if the Communists didnt go rampant. Hungary might have been an elite team till today.

[–] ThinkAboutThatFor1Se@alien.top 1 points 11 months ago

The true travesty of the communist era laid bare.

[–] No_Nothing101@alien.top 1 points 11 months ago (1 children)
[–] I_miss_Chris_Hughton@alien.top 1 points 11 months ago

The odds of them having that sort of team again though are tiny. Even brazil struggle to replicate teams like the wc70 team.

[–] chappersbarfo@alien.top 1 points 11 months ago

If anything communism had a focus on competing at a global level in sports hence why the Soviet Union got to a semifinal, Poland got to two (or three can't remember) and czechoslovakia even won the euros.

[–] MimesAreShite@alien.top 1 points 11 months ago (1 children)

they were still a top team well into the seventies (just checked, and i think the first time they dropped out of the Elo top 10 post-WW2 was 1974).

[–] NiK3_Aub4mey4ng@alien.top 1 points 11 months ago (2 children)

i mean they had a good team, Florian Albert was European Footballer of the Year in ‘67. Just I think they always tried to compare themselves to the ‘52 team and they weren’t able to

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[–] NiK3_Aub4mey4ng@alien.top 1 points 11 months ago (2 children)

i mean it’s also would be a ‘what-if’ that if Hungary won in ‘54, does the uprising have in ‘56

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[–] hafrances@alien.top 1 points 11 months ago (1 children)

When I was in Budapest for the EL final I saw a huge mural of this result painted on some random residential building

[–] I_miss_Chris_Hughton@alien.top 1 points 11 months ago

Made me feel bad for Gil Merrick, who is slathered on there Even though as far as I can tell he was sort of left out to dry by a bad formation

[–] belokas@alien.top 1 points 11 months ago
[–] yesimhilarious@alien.top 1 points 11 months ago (2 children)

To this day we hold "memorials" for the 3:6 but how come 7:1 doesn't get the same treatment?

[–] belokas@alien.top 1 points 11 months ago (4 children)

Because that was the first time England lost a game at home. The second time it happened they already knew England was bad and Hungary was very good.

[–] bb9622@alien.top 1 points 11 months ago

that was the first time England lost a game at home.

It wasn't. It was the first home game they lost to a team from the European continent though.

[–] Such_Technician_501@alien.top 1 points 11 months ago (2 children)

Actually Ireland was the first team to beat England at home. September 1949. 2-0 at Goodison Park.

Doesn't quite fit the narrative that they could only be beaten by the exotic Mighty Magyars though.

[–] ledknee@alien.top 1 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Playing against Ireland in Liverpool is an away game for England

[–] Such_Technician_501@alien.top 1 points 11 months ago
[–] whitsitcalled@alien.top 1 points 11 months ago

Scotland first beat England in 1877 and were the first team to beat them at Wembley. Wales and Ireland (original Ireland football team for the entire island) both beat England multiple times in England before 1953 but Hungary were the first continental European team to beat England in England which is why it's so well known.

[–] ledknee@alien.top 1 points 11 months ago

*First time England lost at Wembley

[–] WalkingCloud@alien.top 1 points 11 months ago

The second time it happened they already knew England was bad and Hungary was very good.

I know what you mean, but genuinely that England team weren't 'bad', Hungary were that good.

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[–] sheehonip@alien.top 1 points 11 months ago (3 children)

Next to Ramsey, what does '11-Esbol mean'?

[–] AlhamdolilahFE@alien.top 1 points 11 months ago

Just looked it up and saw that Ramsey scored a penalty kick. 11-esbol would mean 11 meters and thus a penalty I think lol

[–] KnightsOfCidona@alien.top 1 points 11 months ago

Always forget Alf Ramsey was a player, in my head he's always a middle aged bald man with a posh accent.

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[–] Upplands-Bro@alien.top 1 points 11 months ago (1 children)

The galloping major 👑

Billy Wright still at the shops decades later

[–] OllieStavsToothgap@alien.top 1 points 11 months ago

born in 1924 and still in the mud. absolute shambles

[–] JacquouileFripouile@alien.top 1 points 11 months ago

My great grandpa used to tell me about Hungarian Laka Konjica when I was a wee lad. He told me that there was no football fan who didn't love them

[–] just_some_guy65@alien.top 1 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Was this to do with the Hungarians not using the only formation (the oddly named traditional 5-3-2) that the England players understood so they were stuck rigidly marking thin air?

[–] leanmeanguccimachine@alien.top 1 points 11 months ago

In the quote he says England were playing a WM formation, which was 3-2-2-3.

[–] CeterumCenseo85@alien.top 1 points 11 months ago (1 children)

I've only ever known Italy vs Germany in the 1970 WC referred to as "The Game of the Century." The stadium in Mexico even has a sign commemorating as such.

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[–] I_miss_Chris_Hughton@alien.top 1 points 11 months ago

Always felt bad for Gil Merrick. Very good goalkeeper by all accounts, one of the Birmingham City all time great players and managers, servant of the club for decades. Is known around the world for conceding 11 to Hungary when it probably wasn't his fault.

[–] Jayk03@alien.top 1 points 11 months ago

Hungary beat England 4-0 at their home again in Nation league.

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