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[–] Knorff@alien.top 3 points 1 year ago (2 children)

The English line-up was decided by a FA committee. Every player was nominated for a certain position and had to play this position.

The Hungarian line-up was decided by their coach. Especially their forwards didn´t care about positions.

You can see why Hungary won and England was very confused the whole game.

Extra info: The statistic was around 35:5 shots on goal for Hungary.

[–] mexploder89@alien.top 1 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Extra info: The statistic was around 35:5 shots on goal for Hungary

And England scored 3? Damn

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[–] el_brahmo@alien.top 1 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Ist’s the match of the century the 1970 WC semi final match Germany against Italy ?

[–] Schnurzelburz@alien.top 1 points 1 year ago

Yes.

https://www.fifa.com/fifaplus/en/articles/100-great-world-cup-moments-qatar-2022-10-game-of-the-century-italy-west-germany-1970

Not surprising that the 3-6 would be the match of hte century in Hungary, though.

Depends, some consider France Brazil in 1986

[–] Aenjeprekemaluci@alien.top 1 points 1 year ago (6 children)

What would have been if the Communists didnt go rampant. Hungary might have been an elite team till today.

The true travesty of the communist era laid bare.

[–] No_Nothing101@alien.top 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

The odds of them having that sort of team again though are tiny. Even brazil struggle to replicate teams like the wc70 team.

[–] chappersbarfo@alien.top 1 points 1 year ago

If anything communism had a focus on competing at a global level in sports hence why the Soviet Union got to a semifinal, Poland got to two (or three can't remember) and czechoslovakia even won the euros.

[–] MimesAreShite@alien.top 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

they were still a top team well into the seventies (just checked, and i think the first time they dropped out of the Elo top 10 post-WW2 was 1974).

[–] NiK3_Aub4mey4ng@alien.top 1 points 1 year ago (2 children)

i mean they had a good team, Florian Albert was European Footballer of the Year in ‘67. Just I think they always tried to compare themselves to the ‘52 team and they weren’t able to

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[–] NiK3_Aub4mey4ng@alien.top 1 points 1 year ago (2 children)

i mean it’s also would be a ‘what-if’ that if Hungary won in ‘54, does the uprising have in ‘56

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[–] hafrances@alien.top 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

When I was in Budapest for the EL final I saw a huge mural of this result painted on some random residential building

Made me feel bad for Gil Merrick, who is slathered on there Even though as far as I can tell he was sort of left out to dry by a bad formation

[–] belokas@alien.top 1 points 1 year ago
[–] yesimhilarious@alien.top 1 points 1 year ago (2 children)

To this day we hold "memorials" for the 3:6 but how come 7:1 doesn't get the same treatment?

[–] belokas@alien.top 1 points 1 year ago (4 children)

Because that was the first time England lost a game at home. The second time it happened they already knew England was bad and Hungary was very good.

[–] bb9622@alien.top 1 points 1 year ago

that was the first time England lost a game at home.

It wasn't. It was the first home game they lost to a team from the European continent though.

[–] Such_Technician_501@alien.top 1 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Actually Ireland was the first team to beat England at home. September 1949. 2-0 at Goodison Park.

Doesn't quite fit the narrative that they could only be beaten by the exotic Mighty Magyars though.

[–] ledknee@alien.top 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Playing against Ireland in Liverpool is an away game for England

[–] whitsitcalled@alien.top 1 points 1 year ago

Scotland first beat England in 1877 and were the first team to beat them at Wembley. Wales and Ireland (original Ireland football team for the entire island) both beat England multiple times in England before 1953 but Hungary were the first continental European team to beat England in England which is why it's so well known.

[–] ledknee@alien.top 1 points 1 year ago

*First time England lost at Wembley

[–] WalkingCloud@alien.top 1 points 1 year ago

The second time it happened they already knew England was bad and Hungary was very good.

I know what you mean, but genuinely that England team weren't 'bad', Hungary were that good.

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[–] sheehonip@alien.top 1 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Next to Ramsey, what does '11-Esbol mean'?

[–] AlhamdolilahFE@alien.top 1 points 1 year ago

Just looked it up and saw that Ramsey scored a penalty kick. 11-esbol would mean 11 meters and thus a penalty I think lol

[–] KnightsOfCidona@alien.top 1 points 1 year ago

Always forget Alf Ramsey was a player, in my head he's always a middle aged bald man with a posh accent.

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[–] Upplands-Bro@alien.top 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

The galloping major 👑

Billy Wright still at the shops decades later

[–] OllieStavsToothgap@alien.top 1 points 1 year ago

born in 1924 and still in the mud. absolute shambles

[–] JacquouileFripouile@alien.top 1 points 1 year ago

My great grandpa used to tell me about Hungarian Laka Konjica when I was a wee lad. He told me that there was no football fan who didn't love them

[–] just_some_guy65@alien.top 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Was this to do with the Hungarians not using the only formation (the oddly named traditional 5-3-2) that the England players understood so they were stuck rigidly marking thin air?

In the quote he says England were playing a WM formation, which was 3-2-2-3.

[–] CeterumCenseo85@alien.top 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I've only ever known Italy vs Germany in the 1970 WC referred to as "The Game of the Century." The stadium in Mexico even has a sign commemorating as such.

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Always felt bad for Gil Merrick. Very good goalkeeper by all accounts, one of the Birmingham City all time great players and managers, servant of the club for decades. Is known around the world for conceding 11 to Hungary when it probably wasn't his fault.

[–] Jayk03@alien.top 1 points 1 year ago

Hungary beat England 4-0 at their home again in Nation league.

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