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[–] roofilopolis@alien.top 1 points 11 months ago

That’s soft and I wouldn’t be happy if it were against us for sure, but the way Ali tried to jump and ended up going more sideways than upwards tells me it impacted him a lot more than what it seemed.

[–] Selegraphon@alien.top 1 points 11 months ago

I'm a keeper and I would be absolutely rinsed by the rest of team if I claimed that was a foul.

[–] zrkillerbush@alien.top 1 points 11 months ago

Oof, this doesn't fit the narrative that Arsenal and Liverpool fans have been pushing

[–] fegelman@alien.top 1 points 11 months ago (3 children)

A goalkeeper is considered to be in control of the ball with the hand(s) when:

the ball is between the hands or between the hand and any surface (e.g. ground, own body) or by touching it with any part of the hands or arms except if the ball rebounds from the goalkeeper or the goalkeeper has made a save

holding the ball in the outstretched open hand

bouncing it on the ground or throwing it in the air

A goalkeeper cannot be challenged by an opponent when in control of the ball with the hand(s).

Learn the rules guys before you complain about referees endlessly

[–] StructureTime242@alien.top 1 points 11 months ago

Doesn’t fit the agenda innit

[–] djingo_dango@alien.top 1 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Most VAR calls that people are mad about are also based on rules.

[–] yung_dogie@alien.top 1 points 11 months ago

Tbh I see it more often people being upset at inconsistency. Sure when they happen it may be based on rules, but the other half of the time that don't get called pisses everyone else off

[–] orangeblueorangeblue@alien.top 1 points 11 months ago (1 children)

That’s not control though. The ball rebounded from the keeper. If he’d held it, it would be control. Also, “challenge” in this context is about taking the ball off him (like the awful non-decision in a Turkish women’s game recently).

[–] fegelman@alien.top 1 points 11 months ago

The ball was between his arms making contact with both his gloves. That counts as control under the rules

Challenge can mean that Turkish call or jumping in the air interfering with a keeper trying to catch the ball

Regardless, the mere presence of contact implies a lack of "clear and obvious error"

[–] inspectorgadget69247@alien.top 1 points 11 months ago

I don’t think it should have been a foul, but I can see why it’s given and I can also understand why on-field decision should not be overturned unless egregiously wrong

[–] Jee-NX@alien.top 1 points 11 months ago

Good call by the refs. 👍 Refereeing has been fairly good so far.

[–] prettybunbun@alien.top 1 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Yeah GK’s are protected or you’d have pushes and shoves on them constantly to get advantage.

[–] alphahex4292@alien.top 1 points 11 months ago

I get what you mean but literally the reason akanji isn't closer to contend with the ball is because Alisson has pushed him away,which is way more contact than is then made by akanji in the challenge. I get why it's disallowed but it feels really soft.

[–] Fit-Pomegranate-1740@alien.top 1 points 11 months ago

That Douglas Luiz goal against Arsenal last year makes this funnier. Gotta love prem refs.

[–] barlowix@alien.top 1 points 11 months ago

Everybody just wants to be controversial these days

[–] Gadzs@alien.top 1 points 11 months ago
[–] Portugeezer1893@alien.top 1 points 11 months ago

Keeper gets the benefit of the doubt here. Very close to catching the ball but doesn't, and they're is contact on his arm by the city player. Easy decision, only people who want to go against the refs for no reason would think otherwise.

[–] ageofadzz@alien.top 1 points 11 months ago

Imagine if that went against Liverpool

[–] izmebtw@alien.top 1 points 11 months ago

Well yeah, you can’t hold onto goalkeepers arm, immediately a foul.

[–] Argo_Menace@alien.top 1 points 11 months ago

Arm pull. Next.

[–] soulban3@alien.top 1 points 11 months ago

City fans think they can push the goalie into the net if he has the ball and it should count. It's no surprise they try to also justify holding the keeper's arm down.

[–] Fjelleskalskyte@alien.top 1 points 11 months ago

Very cheap foul

[–] MikePap@alien.top 1 points 11 months ago (1 children)

I love that people say it’s not a foul. Even my girlfriend that doesn’t even watch football told me “are you allowed to grab the guy’s hand?” Lol

[–] MisterS1997@alien.top 1 points 11 months ago

Reminds me of Rodri and Casemiro holding hands a season ago 😂

[–] abc_yxz@alien.top 1 points 11 months ago (3 children)

Clear as day foul. Akanji knew what he was doing before Alisson even began to jump.

Alanji tried a similar 'lean' later in the match too, as if pushing a GK into across their own goal line with the ball in their gloves would somehow count. That was also correctly called as a foul.

[–] yogurtp@alien.top 1 points 11 months ago

Never know in the PL. Hard to criticize players for trying this sort of thing with the chaotic standards.

[–] JianJiaHei@alien.top 1 points 11 months ago

I mean, why not?

What is the penalty for the outfield player for pushing a keeper? At best you get a goal, at worst you give away a free kick. Sure, you might cancel a goal that was going to score regardless, but that probability is so much smaller than forcing an undue goal.

[–] fadedraw@alien.top 1 points 11 months ago

it’s the Pep way to rattle individual players. This is part of tactics.

[–] nofranchise@alien.top 1 points 11 months ago

Absolutely incredible amount of morons in here without a clue about the rules of the game.

[–] ThePr1d3@alien.top 1 points 11 months ago
[–] Ehjwjwpete@alien.top 1 points 11 months ago

If this is foul then joelinton against arsenal is foul too. I say both are foul.

[–] ajyahzee@alien.top 1 points 11 months ago

See, calling out PGMOL does make a difference, no everybody do it

[–] phannguyenduyhung@alien.top 1 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Corrupted. The contact is extremely soft. Refs are corrupted. So fking dirty

[–] Alphabunsquad@alien.top 1 points 11 months ago

Lol, the audacity of this comment.

[–] t1nt3d_@alien.top 1 points 11 months ago (2 children)
[–] dolphintitties@alien.top 1 points 11 months ago

liverpool literally had an onside goal against spurs not given you stupid bastard.

[–] Pheet@alien.top 1 points 11 months ago

Wasn't it also the on-field decision....? :D

[–] Stickman95@alien.top 1 points 11 months ago

Despite being a foul, why is Cias complete alone?

[–] KloppsKrazies@alien.top 1 points 11 months ago

I think City “fans” don’t quite understand the sport here.

[–] ER1916@alien.top 1 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Mad that this sub seems to be a place of sanity on this. Watching the match I didn’t think for a second it wasn’t a foul. But the more I read the more journos and pundits keep saying it wasn’t? Just read Jamie Jackson in the Guardian and he doesn’t even seem to comprehend why the goal was disallowed. Doesn’t even mention that the keeper’s arms were being grabbed before and during the cross?!?

Am I going totally crazy, but hasn’t that always been a foul? At least in the past few decades? I’m pretty sure in the 1800s it would have been a main tactic, but imagine it was fine still? Surely then every team would just have two players grabbing an arm a piece on every cross if it’s legitimate. They don’t because it isn’t. You can’t grab a keeper’s arms, I mean that’s just fucking basic shit, surely? Am I missing something?

[–] aprogrammeaboutart@alien.top 1 points 11 months ago

What you may be missing is Jamie Jackson is a cockney manc who hates Liverpool and writes like he thinks it’s a United fanzine.

[–] Planet_Funk99@alien.top 1 points 11 months ago

We wuz robbed!!

[–] MrCompromised@alien.top 1 points 11 months ago

If this was against united, city get that goal.

[–] ThorinLutgehr@alien.top 1 points 11 months ago

Only just caught up with the goals from yesterday. How is this controversial. You are never getting away with that kind of contact