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Was really surprised to see the difference in fumbles.

  • Tua: 3177 yards passing, 69.8%, 4 fumbles lost
  • Allen: 2875 yards passing, 69.6%, 3 fumbles lost
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[–] TheRatchetTrombone@alien.top 1 points 1 year ago

Many of the turnovers were in lower stakes games and moments while many of Allen's are him pulling a Brett Favre and costing him games. Plus, we have been superior in running the ball. Fuck outta here trying to prop up Allen as unlucky. He's a turnover god of a gunslinger. He's not going to change.

[–] kekehippo@alien.top 1 points 1 year ago

Maybe Josh will do Tua a solid and get his INT count up this weekend.

[–] eattwo@alien.top 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Not a great year to have Burrow and Tua as my QBs in fantasy

[–] MikeHuntsBear@alien.top 1 points 1 year ago

I feel your pain bruh

[–] doyouunderstandlife@alien.top 1 points 1 year ago

A good chunk of Tua's fumbles are from snaps because Connor Williams is not a good snapper (great blocker however). A couple of other fumbles have also occurred on direct hand-offs that were given directly to the RBs but just never secured (I think those were attributed to Tua, but idk for sure). There was also a weird backwards pass on a bad play call against Carolina that went out of bounds for a loss.

Out of all the fumbles, I think about 2-3 were legit strip sacks, and one was a fumble on a QB run.

[–] Bobblefighterman@alien.top 1 points 1 year ago

>Was really surprised to see the difference in fumbles.

i'm not. Any of our RBs not named Achane or Mostert will practically hand the ball over to the defense, and our center isn't even a center, leading to wild throws to the QB that he inevitably fumbles.

[–] Jc2563@alien.top 1 points 1 year ago

Tua is just not a consistent in being a good quarterback, every-year is a up and down drama with him.

[–] Username__Error@alien.top 1 points 1 year ago

The number don't lie. Time to release Josh Allen and bring back Nathan Peterman.

[–] Josh_in_Shanghai@alien.top 1 points 1 year ago

Allen is relied on to win games. Tua is an elite game manager. Our skill positions (we,tv,db) are relied on the to win games.

[–] similar222@alien.top 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Saw a stat last week that Allen actually had more turnovers than turnover-worthy plays

[–] lionoflinwood@alien.top 1 points 1 year ago

Yup. Just insanely unlucky.

[–] FinsFan130929@alien.top 1 points 1 year ago

Something I haven't seen talked about in this thread is both teams rushing touchdowns

The Dolphins have 19 rushing touchdowns. Bills have 12, with 7 of those being Allen.

The teams fundamentally score differently, Allen is a lot more of the focus on the Bills offense compared to Tua. This isnt a bad thing mind you, but something to note when looking at total touchdowns when comparing the QBs. Theyre both elite and have had interception issues, especially this season

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