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Instead of blocking them, this extension speeds them up to x16 and also mutes the ad. Experiencing a 30 second ad in 2 seconds is pretty funny. And it works on Edge and Chrome.

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[–] dual_sport_dork@lemmy.world 290 points 9 months ago (5 children)

While some paid ad blockers seem to work, the vast majority of tools don’t seem to do the trick.

What a bunch of FUD. Firefox and uBlock Origin still work on Youtube just fine.

[–] atrielienz@lemmy.world 70 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

Part of the reason I am not advocating for or against the extension or the source. People can judge for themselves. I thought it was funny (not a great idea but definitely an interesting implementation). For the record I use both unlock origin and Firefox, and I also run a pihole at home. I'm just putting out there that it exists.

[–] ColeSloth@discuss.tchncs.de 19 points 9 months ago (4 children)

I moved back to Firefox like 5 years ago. But saying the vast majority of tools don't seem to do the trick is a pretty true statement, since that's one browser with one app, and the browser only has a sub 10% market share.

[–] SpaceCadet@feddit.nl 9 points 9 months ago (4 children)

Yeah but uBlock Origin still works on Chrome too

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[–] Aatube@kbin.social 9 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (2 children)

Maybe they mean the vast majority of tools on Edge and Chrome? Plus this approach may or may not preserve dollars for creators

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[–] AlolanYoda@mander.xyz 100 points 9 months ago (2 children)

Everyone's hating on this approach but I think it's nice that we have other options. I'm sure Ublock is going to come out on top of this cat and mouse game YouTube is playing with them, but if YouTube manages to temporarily disable Ublock I'll look into this solution. Thanks!

[–] soggy_kitty@sopuli.xyz 24 points 9 months ago (4 children)

Google will give up eventually. They're definitely burning more money than they would gain from winning the battle

[–] Wisely@lemm.ee 23 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (2 children)

They give up on everything else all the time. I wonder if expanding their ad business is the one exception though. They ran out of new users and already pack videos full of ads. Forcing them on people who block them is the only thing left for them to attempt as they seek to continue perpetual growth.

[–] uzay@infosec.pub 10 points 9 months ago

Ads are the very core of Google at this point. They are more likely to give up their search engine and the name Google before they give up their ad business.

[–] linearchaos@lemmy.world 9 points 9 months ago (2 children)

Unfortunately the videos with ads absolutely packed through them are largely due to the creators choosing the settings for extra monetization.

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[–] Atemu@lemmy.ml 9 points 9 months ago (1 children)

I do not believe that is the case. Youtube ads are an insanely profitable business. I suspect throwing a couple dozen of FTEs on blocking ad blockers would be <1% of current revenue.

[–] soggy_kitty@sopuli.xyz 12 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (8 children)

I don't doubt they make tonnes of revenue from ads however you have to remember how small the share of adblocker users are. So the extra money from fighting the adblock user base is a clear gamble. Especially as those types of users are the ones who are more likely to avoid YouTube completely if they can't bypass ads.

Someone in Google would have done the research because it's not a simple case of war profit = adblockusers * ad revenue per user

I strongly believe they'll stop once they hit a certain threshold/target of "reduction of adblock users". They won't go on like this forever.

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[–] altima_neo@lemmy.zip 7 points 9 months ago (1 children)

I don't think they've gone all in yet.

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[–] atrielienz@lemmy.world 10 points 9 months ago

That's why I tried to present it without an anti-google seeming bias. I wanted people to just have the facts and not all the BS in the article. I think it's a good option for people who don't want to block ads so creators they watch benefit.

[–] Chev@lemmy.world 74 points 10 months ago (2 children)
[–] atrielienz@lemmy.world 68 points 9 months ago

I said it was novel. I didn't say it was good.

[–] Harpsist@lemmy.world 6 points 9 months ago

My ff got hit by the blanket 'no fire fox' issue. Now even with no mods youtube won't work at all.

Downloaded free tube. Keep thinking to make some kinda macro to auto switch to it when I search in ff search bar.

[–] Gabu@lemmy.world 73 points 9 months ago (3 children)

What the fuck is wrong with this shit article?

The crackdown on ad blockers has been quite effective

No, it hasn't. What's up with the doublespeak?

While some paid ad blockers seem to work, the vast majority of tools don’t seem to do the trick.

Patently false. uBlock hasn't had a single hickup.

Fuck whoever wrote this garbage.

[–] pachrist@lemmy.world 20 points 9 months ago (1 children)

I don't know. I bet it has been pretty effective, but I also don't think I'd trust any data I'd see from Google.

But, their goal isn't to get you or me to watch ads. Hell will freeze over before I spend 30s watching an ad for a video that's barely double that. Their goal is to target the people we've installed ad blockers for: friends, parents, siblings, in-laws.

I'm not going to watch ads, and I sure as hell am not going to click on anything, but my mother in law does now. My mom does too. They now feel like an ad blocker is "too much hassle," so Google won that fight. I don't know if new people are installing, updating, or changing ad blockers enough to offset right now.

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[–] AWittyUsername@lemmy.world 20 points 9 months ago

Let them believe they've won.

[–] yamanii@lemmy.world 9 points 9 months ago

They all pretend ublock origin don't exist, they only talk about the old stupid for profit AdBlock that let's "good ads" through.

[–] dynamo@lemm.ee 55 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (11 children)

Yeah, no. I'm not willing to even have the ad for any amount of time. IMO ads should be banned, and before anyone reaponds, no i don't give a shit about the consequences of a change that substancial

[–] atrielienz@lemmy.world 16 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

Then this isn't for you. That's fine. Adblockers like ublock origin still work. So do newpipe, piped and other front end services. Firefox and other non-chromium based browsers etc. Do what you want with your devices.

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[–] mojo@lemm.ee 43 points 9 months ago (5 children)

uBlock Origin works just fine. I use Firefox btw

[–] Mongostein@lemmy.ca 10 points 9 months ago

I watched two hours of Rocky & Bullwinkle uninterrupted the other day thanks to FireFox and uBlock Origin

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[–] Honytawk@lemmy.zip 42 points 9 months ago (4 children)

In before Ads are recorded at 1/16th the speed in order to play at the correct speed with one of those extensions.

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[–] blahsay@lemmy.world 31 points 9 months ago (3 children)
[–] ours@lemmy.world 10 points 9 months ago

The "Look at what they need to do to have a fraction of our power" Invincible meme comes to mind.

Pathetic to be satisfied with sped-up annoyances when they can be easily skipped altogether with a browser not controlled by the ad company.

[–] jol@discuss.tchncs.de 7 points 9 months ago (7 children)

I don't know man. This is actually pretty genius. Because this way creators still get paid. I wouldn't mind using such extension on Firefox. Problem is I still want to block all trackers and other nonsense...

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[–] ubermeisters@lemmy.world 29 points 10 months ago (1 children)

yes let me rely on 9to5google.com for the best methods to still allow youtube to still retain revenue on my views. Nice try google

[–] NOT_RICK@lemmy.world 45 points 9 months ago (1 children)

On the other hand, this will royally piss off advertisers if it takes off. Make Google play a losing game of whack a mole with a ton of options on how to subvert their annoying platform

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[–] onlinepersona@programming.dev 28 points 9 months ago (1 children)
[–] atrielienz@lemmy.world 7 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Some people have to use it for work. Including me, although I don't have this problem because I don't use it for YouTube.

[–] governorkeagan@lemdro.id 7 points 9 months ago (4 children)

I’ve been A/B testing Chrome and Firefox at work since we’ve had it drilled into us that we absolutely have to use Chrome. I haven’t had a single issue with Firefox, even with internal web apps. Your mileage may vary though.

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[–] decisivelyhoodnoises@sh.itjust.works 27 points 9 months ago (2 children)

Awesome, now you get only subconscious messages flashed in your eyes.

What else are people going to do to avoid installing Firefox?

[–] dgriffith@aussie.zone 10 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Awesome, now you get only subconscious messages flashed in your eyes.

Blipverts. If I recall correctly, they had some bad side effects on sensitive people.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blipvert

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[–] 1984@lemmy.today 15 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (3 children)

It's cool and all but it's still that annoying break when you are trying to enjoy a video or learn something.

This will take you out of the flow also.

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[–] Noodle07@lemmy.world 13 points 9 months ago (4 children)

I must be an anomaly but... Ublock still works perfectly fine for me on chrome lol

[–] atrielienz@lemmy.world 8 points 9 months ago

You aren't. I also use Firefox and ublock origin (but sometimes have to use chrome for work).

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[–] sic_semper_tyrannis@feddit.ch 9 points 9 months ago (3 children)

Use Freetube on the desktop and Newpipe (or the Sponsorblock version) on mobile (Android). No issues or ads

[–] bnjmn@lemm.ee 8 points 9 months ago (1 children)

I use FreeTube but hadn't heard of Newpipe before. Thanks for the recommendation!

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[–] echodot@feddit.uk 9 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

Between uBlock and Sponsor Block I've had absolutely no interruption in service and it's the exact same experience that I've had for years

[–] pearsche@lemdro.id 7 points 9 months ago
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