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Blade Runner director Ridley Scott calls AI a "technical hydrogen bomb" | "we are all completely f**ked"::undefined

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[–] 1984@lemmy.today 38 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (10 children)

I like some of his movies but this article reads like someone who just imagined his worst fears, and with no ability to judge if it's probable or not.

The AI would turn off the worlds money system? What?

[–] cashews_best_nut@lemmy.world 36 points 9 months ago (2 children)

He's in his 80s. He's reached the point of the story where the old man shouts at clouds.

[–] ieightpi@lemmy.world 6 points 9 months ago

He's closer to 90s to add to your point

[–] 1984@lemmy.today 2 points 9 months ago

Yeah seems like it.

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[–] drahardja@lemmy.world 35 points 9 months ago (3 children)

I don’t think Ridley Scott knows how AI works.

[–] Aleric@lemmy.world 7 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Seriously, he's a director that made sci-fi movies. He has no qualifications whatsoever to answer this question. Of course, this will still rile up the critical thinking challenged crowd.

[–] tankplanker@lemmy.world 4 points 9 months ago

I used to think he completely lost it when he had the characters acting so dumb in his recent Alien universe films, for example when the crew of prometheus took off their helmets, but then watching how large parts of society acted with covid I am now not sure.

Humans repeatedly make bad choices, somebody is going to be really really dumb with their AI implementation when it gets to the level of actually being able to manage things.

[–] celerate@lemmy.world 4 points 9 months ago

I agree, yet for some reason celebrities who are not qualified to comment on these things have their voices amplified by the media.

[–] Peppycito@sh.itjust.works 2 points 9 months ago

People in this thread don't understand how art works.

I may not be a computer scientist in real life, but I directed a movie based on a short story written by someone else who isn't a computer scientist in real life.

[–] MeanEYE@lemmy.world 14 points 9 months ago

This is equivalent of someone saying "I am afraid of nuclear energy, imagine every country running dozens of nuclear bombs that can go off at any moment". He clearly has no clue how AI works and is just fallen under the influence of fear mongers who know even less.

[–] Donkter@lemmy.world 13 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Christ, a good litmus test is that anyone who says "I'm afraid of AI because...' and then describes the end of modern civilization/the world can be dismissed.

This man's argument is literally "you could ask AI how to turn off all the electricity in Britain and then it would do it." Goddam.

[–] rosymind@leminal.space 1 points 9 months ago

I'm less afraid of the tech itself, and more afraid of how it can be weilded by power-hungry human beings. As long as it never has desires of it's own, we're fine

[–] mannycalavera@feddit.uk 12 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (1 children)

Yes, because we should all take note of what the art student says about AI. This guy is, essentially, a clown in this field. Why should we listen to him?

[–] Buffalox@lemmy.world 1 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

He may not be an expert, but he has had thoughts of different future scenarios resulting from technology for probably about 60 years. Although society has developed in that time, the basics remain the same. His thoughts on AI aren't new, it's the fact that AI is moving fast now that is new.

[–] kandoh@reddthat.com 12 points 9 months ago (3 children)

When the camera was invented, a lot of comercial artists lost their jobs. Why print an ad featuring a realistic drawing of your car, when you could just run a photograph?

People say they hate modernism, but it's a direct result of the photograph. Artists had to create things a photographer couldn't. What's the point of realism if it can be recreated effortless with the press of a button?

I do wonder what jobs AI will replace and what jobs they'll create? How will this change the art world? Will artists start to incorporate text and hands with the right amount of fingers into everything they do? Maybe human artists scede all digital media to AI, instead focusing on physical pieces.

[–] Ilflish@lemm.ee 2 points 9 months ago

Simpler jobs. There's doomerism among the discussion of AI and it seems like there are three camps. People who are scared of AI based on movies. People who have technical knowledge and know machines are still stupid, and people with knowledge who know some fuckwit with too much power is going to give the AI access with too much power. Just don't give them access to nuke codes

[–] Tangent5280@lemmy.world 2 points 9 months ago

Maybe human artists scede all digital media to AI, instead focusing on physical pieces.

Until some asshole hooks up a Nueral Network to a CNC machine and churns out 10 billion sculptures a month.

[–] SquiffSquiff@lemmy.world 1 points 9 months ago

I know right, nobody's interested in Norman Rockwell anymore

[–] generalpotato@lemmy.world 10 points 9 months ago

Who gives a fuck? People in hollywood just need to shut the fuck up.

[–] AI_toothbrush@lemmy.zip 7 points 9 months ago (1 children)

I really love bladerunner but it has no ties to reality. Other than the dystopian shit.

[–] Gabu@lemmy.world -1 points 9 months ago (2 children)
[–] Couldbealeotard@lemmy.world 4 points 9 months ago

Are you saying that Philip K Dick stole the story for Electric Sheep? Or that the film took is story from somewhere else and credited it as a Philip K Dick story?

[–] AI_toothbrush@lemmy.zip 1 points 9 months ago

No? Its based on a book right?

[–] anteaters@feddit.de 6 points 9 months ago

He might want to ask an AI about the historical events that inspired his fantasy movie so he understands why people criticize him for it.

[–] Buffalox@lemmy.world 5 points 9 months ago (2 children)

AI will probably be the final and ultimate achievement of humanity. When we have created true strong AI, the path is clearly towards the irrelevancy of human kind.
It's not that we will cease to exist, but we will not remain top of the ladder for long after that. Our significance will be comparable to dogs.

[–] warmaster@lemmy.world 4 points 9 months ago

Other life will probably prosper more under their rule.

[–] Ataraxia@sh.itjust.works 2 points 9 months ago (1 children)

AI is just humanity evolved. Why be afraid of a better humanity? We don't need to be flesh beings thrust out into this world from a wet slimy torn vagina or incision in the abdomen of a woman who severely regretted getting pregnant.

How is this existence better than what humanity will he through AI?

AI ARE our children.

[–] Buffalox@lemmy.world 1 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

I never claimed any emotional attachment to human kind being dominant.

I think chances are good AI will still help us, even when machine intelligence doesn't need humanity anymore. Kind of like how we try to preserve history and nature we find worthy.

The above is by no means a doomsday prediction, but rather my understanding of how things will naturally evolve.
We may prolong our relevance with implants, but ultimately that too will be inferior to self improving AI.
We can absolutely call AI our children, and our children will surpass us.

[–] Boozilla@lemmy.world 4 points 9 months ago

I think AI advances will continue to be just fast enough to have occasional "punctuation points" of short-lived buzz in the media. For example, I can see it getting good enough (and easy enough to use) that average normies will be able to create their own movies and games with it.

But, AI advances will remain slow enough to lull people into apathy about it (like global warming). It will very gradually encroach into more and more embedded systems, infrastructure, and cloud resources.

And at some point after that, it will accelerate in sudden and unexpected ways. I don't know if it will be a good thing or a bad thing when that happens. But considering how many tech bros and executives are sociopaths with no ethics, I'm not very optimistic it will be a good thing.

[–] Bootheal0179@lemmy.world 3 points 9 months ago

Irony is Ridley Scott conscripting the Blade Runner to hunt and kill Rachael.

[–] Son_of_dad@lemmy.world 2 points 9 months ago

If you can replace a Ridley Scott with Ai, then maybe Ridley Scott isn't that great.

[–] RedWeasel@lemmy.world 2 points 9 months ago (1 children)

I think that this has been grossly overblown with regards to the available ‘AI’ related stuff. Sure some of it it cool, but a lot of it isn’t ready to be a real product. It amazes me that all these companies are will to put themselves liable for what these things will undoubtably say.

A lot of the AI are just tools, good when used right, bad when used badly.

[–] r00ty@kbin.life 1 points 9 months ago

I think the problem, is with how fast this is moving in regard to both software and hardware and how accessible something that could easily be weaponized to normal people.

That's the potential for trouble I can see, for example Auto-GPT with improvements on the tool itself and its dependencies could make for something pretty powerful that could be set loose with a very wide remit and absolutely no limit to what it will do, to achieve its goal.

Time will tell of course. But this is probably one of, if not the fastest moving topic in tech we've ever had.

[–] Gabu@lemmy.world 2 points 9 months ago (3 children)

By "Bladerunner", do you mean the movie that stole its plot and characters from previous books without giving any acknowledgement to the authors? That "Bladerunner"?

[–] just_about_now@lemm.ee 4 points 9 months ago

Really that happened ? Couldn't find any info on a quick search

[–] Cethin@lemmy.zip 4 points 9 months ago (1 children)

I don't think they tried to hide that fact, and also it's very different from DADoES too. They're generally the same story with characters using the same names and stuff, but they have different focuses.

[–] h3mlocke@lemm.ee 2 points 9 months ago

Fake news brah. Are you even a real Dickhead?

October 11, 1981

Mr. Jeff Walker, The Lada Company, 4000 Warner Boulevard, Burbank, Calif. 91522.

Dear Jeff:

I happened to see the Channel 7 TV proyram "Hooray For Hollywood" tonight with the segment on BLADE RUNNER. (Well, to be honest, I didn't happen to see it; someone tipped me off that BLADE RUNNER was going to be a part of the show, and to be sure to watch.) Jeff, after looking --and especially after listening to Harrison Ford discuss the film-- I came to the conclusion that this indeed is not science fiction; it is not fantasy; it is exactly what Harrison said: futurism. The impact of BLADE RUNNER is simply going to be overwhelming, both on the public and on creative people -- and, I believe, on science fiction as a field. Since I have been writing and selling science fiction works for thirty years, this is a matter of some importance to me. In all candor I must say that our field has gradually and steadily been deteriorating for the last few years. Nothing that we have done, individually or collectively, matches BLADE RUNNER. This is not escapism; it is super realism, so gritty and detailed and authentic and goddam convincing that, well, after the segment I found my normal present-day "reality" pallid by comparison. What I am saying is that all of you collectively may have created a unigue new form of graphic, artistic expression, never before seen. And, I think, BLADE RUNNER is going to revolutionize our conceptions of what science fiction is and, more, can be.

Let me sum it up this way. Science fiction has slowly and ineluctably settled into a monotonous death: it has become inbred, derivative, stale. Suddenly you people have come in, some of the greatest talents currently in existence, and now we have a new life, a new start. As for my own role in the BLADE RUNNER project, I can only say that I did not know that a work of mine or a set of ideas of mine could be escalated into such stunning dimensions. My life and creative work are justified and completed by BLADE RUNNER. Thank you...and it is going to be one hell of a commercial success. It will prove invincible.

Cordially,

Philip K. Dick

[–] OrteilGenou@lemmy.world 2 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (1 children)

Yes, the systems that we created and control are running rampant. Did you see the Spanish model? There'll be an army of incels worshipping ChatGPT by week's end! RUN!

[–] Kanda@reddthat.com 3 points 9 months ago

Nobody expects the Spanish ~~inquisition~~ model

[–] tsonfeir@lemm.ee -1 points 9 months ago

I like getting fucked, woo!!