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Donald Trump’s contentious decision to fire the U.S. statistics chief has done little to stem an economic slump, with the latest jobs report showing only 22,000 jobs were added in August - well below expectations. One month after Trump sacked the Bureau of Statistics Commissioner Erika McEntarfer in response to weak job numbers, the unemployment rate rose to 4.3 per cent, the highest since 2021.

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[–] dhork@lemmy.world 144 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

"We apologise again for the fault in the data. Those responsible for sacking the people who have just been sacked, have been sacked."

[–] tburkhol@lemmy.world 78 points 3 weeks ago

The firings will continue until the numbers look good.

[–] Windex007@lemmy.world 101 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

Since he's installing loyalists, the integrity of the data will now always be in question.

If the numbers aren't great, and that's even with a thumb on the scale?

[–] the_q@lemmy.zip 28 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

That's the point. That's why AI is being pushed so hard on top of it. Information integrity is dead... I have the numbers to prove it.

[–] atomicbocks@sh.itjust.works 11 points 3 weeks ago

What’s really annoying is people keep acting like this hasn’t been a thing already for nearly a decade.

[–] LoafedBurrito@lemmy.world 13 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

They are much worse than this. Inflation is worse than they show. The dollar has lost 11% of its value since January. We are in freefall because of MAGA Republicans and Donald Trump.

[–] dhork@lemmy.world 4 points 3 weeks ago

Trump doesn't care, he has most of his money in crypto. He wants the dollar to tank, because then his shitcoins are worth more dollars.

[–] juandelpueblo787@lemmy.world 37 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

"It's the past administration's fault I fired that staff! You liberal media always pushing propaganda!"

[–] Zulu@lemmy.world 19 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

"Biden job slump time bomb!?"

I can see the headlines already.

[–] SpikesOtherDog@ani.social 8 points 3 weeks ago

Sleepy Joe gets long range hit on Trump administration.

[–] Tarquinn2049@lemmy.world 11 points 3 weeks ago

The fact that their mind even goes to " it was deliberate long-term planning on my opponent's part to make me look bad" suggests that is shit they do... instead of 'governing in the best interest of the people they represent' which is what their job is supposed to be, and what their opponents actually do.

[–] Bwaz@lemmy.world 34 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

And that 2200 number got announced after being already cooked by the new replacement management. Imagine what the actual number was.

[–] KairuByte@lemmy.dbzer0.com 8 points 3 weeks ago (4 children)

Everyone in the department has been pretty clear that the director has no real way to influence the numbers. I suppose they could just release a fake document, but that wouldn’t be very tenable in the long term.

[–] Bwaz@lemmy.world 6 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

Why else would the director be replaced? No other reason seems feasible -- he didn't like the true answer.

[–] dondelelcaro@lemmy.world 6 points 3 weeks ago

Shooting the messenger has a long, sordid history.

[–] KairuByte@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

Because he’s an idiot and assumed the next director can make the change.

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[–] Natanael@infosec.pub 5 points 3 weeks ago

They can push for things like altered definitions and thresholds, etc, even if they're not authorized to pick their own numbers directly, etc.

[–] null_dot@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 3 weeks ago

What does this really mean though?

The same could be said of any democratic institution, of course the director doesn't have any way to influence the reporting they produce because it's all supposed to be transparent and reliable.

In reality though, in the Trump admin, they can absolutely manipulate the numbers in a myriad of ways.

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[–] altphoto@lemmy.today 3 points 3 weeks ago

5 blow jobs!

That's right, last month we gained 5 blow jobs!

[–] Ougie@lemmy.world 30 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

And these jobs that were created are mostly ICE hires ಠ_ಠ

[–] LifeInMultipleChoice@lemmy.world 4 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (2 children)

Population growth in August should have been around 162,000. 22,000 jobs created means a deficit of around 140,000 jobs. Or rather 100,000 people without jobs probably.

Not a good look for him.

[–] JeeBaiChow@lemmy.world 4 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

They're gonna spin it into AIs great success.

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[–] BanMe@lemmy.world 3 points 3 weeks ago

Shh they like to say "only 22k jobs" like we're still growing just not as fast

The media today was a case study in "ok don't panic everyone"

Wow, it has been a while since I have seen the good ol’ Reddit glare ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

[–] givesomefucks@lemmy.world 27 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

The numbers released on Friday mark the first such release since a dismal jobs report last month prompted Trump to fire McEntarfer, the bureaucrat in charge of them, and claim the data was politically manipulated.

He then nominated Heritage Foundation economist E.J. Antoni, a Project 2025 architect and fan of Nazi battleships, as her potential replacement.

It would be pretty funny if he keeps firing them everytime a report comes out...

[–] dhork@lemmy.world 16 points 3 weeks ago

It will be lucky for them if all he does is fire them

I find your lack of faith disturbing

[–] b34k@lemmy.world 13 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Antoni hasn’t been confirmed yet so has no part in this latest report. He’s also come out and said he won’t release monthly jobs numbers anymore once installed.

[–] givesomefucks@lemmy.world 5 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (1 children)

And that would all be enough to prevent a logical person from firing that Nazi for reasons other than just being a Nazi...

But we're talking about the American government here.

It wouldn't be that shocking if he just reflexively fires the guy anyways.

[–] fartographer@lemmy.world 2 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Government employee #41526: Sir, your wife called

Trump: GET THE FUCK OUT OF HERE! YOU'RE FUCKING FIRED! DEPORT THIS LYING LIB!!!

GE#41527: Ahem. She wanted to confirm that 7 o'clock is good for dinner reservations.

Trump: Oh goodie! I'm so excited! She might touch my pp tonight. I'm so happy that you're fired!

GE#41528: -Hides and accidentally group chats a reporter how he wishes the Main Stream Media would have warned him about how awful Trump is-

[–] givesomefucks@lemmy.world 4 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

he wishes the Main Stream Media would have warned him about how awful Trump is-

I'm really not looking forward to when maga starts to ask:

Why didn't anyone stop this if you knew it was gonna be so bad?

Once the shit really hits the fan. They've removed all the guardrails and are gonna act shocked when a bus really goes off the cliff.

[–] lividweasel@lemmy.world 4 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

The bus went off the cliff a while ago. We’re just waiting for the impact.

[–] givesomefucks@lemmy.world 2 points 3 weeks ago

I wish you were right.

But we're still accelerating, we got all four wheels on the pavement and the pedal to the floor

Shits gonna get fucking nuts bro

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[–] prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone 26 points 3 weeks ago

Trump suffers...

Don't get my hopes up like that

[–] ultranaut@lemmy.world 24 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

The ironic thing is, a lower employment rate increases the chances the Fed will reduce interest rates, which is exactly what Trump wants. He is working against himself trying to rig the numbers, and creating a situation where rates can get significantly out of sync with the real economy.

[–] PrincessLeiasCat@sh.itjust.works 13 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

real economy

Because the dude has no concept of what reality/truth is. We just all have to live in his fucked up head canon of how the world works.

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[–] frustrated_phagocytosis@fedia.io 21 points 3 weeks ago

I guess the economy is complicated huh, just like health care? Sure seems like Biden had the right tactic for four years, so what's his problem? Too stupid? What good was that ivy league business education of his?

[–] manxu@piefed.social 18 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

I bet 11000 of those new jobs are just loyalists replacing "DEI hires" (aka competent people).

[–] SabinStargem@lemmy.today 8 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (1 children)

I would count each of those as a -1 to job stats. Anti-woke jackasses are worse than nothing, I expect.

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[–] relativestranger@feddit.nl 14 points 3 weeks ago

surprised the new hire could even count that high.

[–] circuitfarmer@lemmy.sdf.org 12 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Wait wait wait.... are you telling me that ignoring and hiding a problem does not FIX that problem???!!

[–] null_dot@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 points 3 weeks ago

What if we increase the cost of everything for no reason? I mean if everyone can buy less things, and everything costs more to manufacture, everyone will need more jobs.

[–] SoftestSapphic@lemmy.world 10 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

There are less jobs then there are people

There are not enough jobs in existence to sustain the people in existence

This is an absolute failure of this system, if this continues then we are going to be raiding grocery stores soon.

[–] gandalf_der_12te@discuss.tchncs.de 5 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

the jobs situation is absolutely dramatic and it's incredible that not more people talk about it.

the people need income. it either comes from jobs or universal basic income or raids. (at least) one of the three.

[–] peoplebeproblems@midwest.social 8 points 3 weeks ago

Just got to remind myself. As long as I can make it to the next housing crash, I will be ok. And if I'm ok, I can keep helping others.

But damn do they make it hard.

[–] kmartburrito@lemmy.world 7 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)
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[–] sturmblast@lemmy.world 6 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

To the surprise of literally no one, the American economy is doing bad.

[–] Soup@lemmy.world 2 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

Hey but GDP, a completely useless metric for describing how the real economy for the 99% is doing, is pretty healthy!

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[–] crozilla@lemmy.world 5 points 3 weeks ago

“Despite” firing…fixed it.

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