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[–] Elver-Gotas@alien.top 1 points 11 months ago
[–] Yaysuzu@alien.top 1 points 11 months ago (1 children)

It is a fucking weird article, but why racist? I guess we need to wait for Vini Jr opinion on the matter.

[–] ClayboiPartiSux@alien.top 1 points 11 months ago (1 children)

How about NOT referring to him as that and seeing him as a footballer instead?

[–] Yaysuzu@alien.top 1 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Yeah of course, but again, why racist?

[–] ClayboiPartiSux@alien.top 1 points 11 months ago

idk dude how about you go upto a dark-skinned person and ask them if they are a 'descendant of slavery' and lets see how the situation goes

[–] bobby_zamora@alien.top 1 points 11 months ago

It's referencing his Quilombola roots which is a specific group of people in Brazil that descend from escaped slaves.

[–] Shikizion@alien.top 1 points 11 months ago

I mean... He's black and Brazilian, it is probably true, you just don't need to call someone that

[–] DrewTheZamboni@alien.top 1 points 11 months ago

This title must've gone through so many hands before being published and still got published without anyone thinking the title was the slightest bit racist.

[–] timdeking@alien.top 1 points 11 months ago

What the actual fuck

[–] Joy2082@alien.top 1 points 11 months ago (2 children)

They really should remove the WC from Spain.

[–] 14-05-2005@alien.top 1 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Always hilarious seeing this type comments then looking at the flair, de que zona de espanha és? Mumbai ou Nova Iorque?

[–] lazy_bastard_001@alien.top 1 points 11 months ago

ya know chatgpt, deepL and google translate exist right? if someone wanted to pretend to be from somewhere on the internet it's damn easy nowadays...

[–] Xehanz@alien.top 1 points 11 months ago

Imagine they remove Spain from the WC bid but they allow Qatar and Saudi Arabia. Lmao. Peak FIFA.

[–] Doge_peer@alien.top 1 points 11 months ago

What? That’s just weird…

[–] criloz@alien.top 1 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Someone should explain him that every human alive have ancestors that were slaves

[–] WorthPlease@alien.top 1 points 11 months ago

Yeah but, they had the same skin color as me. So it was different.

[–] Xehanz@alien.top 1 points 11 months ago (6 children)

I've seen worse. Our president made a slight mistake and misquoted a book by saying "Mexicans came from Indians, Brazilians came from the jungle, but we Argentines came from the ships, and the ships came from Europe. So of course I love Spain"

[–] 20cmdepersonalidade@alien.top 1 points 11 months ago

The quote is made even worse by the fact that is straight-up wrong too, given that Argentina has as much non-European ancestry as Brazil in terms of genetics. Lots of Argentinians came from the natives too.

[–] Yvael@alien.top 1 points 11 months ago

We have had worse presidents

[–] bafetimbi193@alien.top 1 points 11 months ago

Just for clarification this wasn’t Milei

[–] Moug-10@alien.top 0 points 11 months ago (2 children)

I start to see why many people say Argentinians are racist. At first, I thought it was like any other countries but this is a bigger level.

[–] Deluxefish@alien.top 1 points 11 months ago

Just take a look at the thread when the brazilian police attacked argentinian fans in the stadium a few days ago.

Obviously a horrible occurence, but the amount of Argentines that denied any kind of racism problem/racist history in their country was outrageous, and anyone opposing their lies was downvoted to hell

[–] Bigwood69@alien.top 1 points 11 months ago

They basically see themselves as Europeans rather than South Americans, as I understand it.

[–] PowerOfTheShihTzu@alien.top 0 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Man Im watching somewhat the under17 world cup currently at play for Etcheverry and let me tell y'all the roster could very well be Mexicans , ecuadorians or whatevs;it is not as if the players look Baltic haha

[–] 20cmdepersonalidade@alien.top 1 points 11 months ago

Argentina is just as non-European as Brazil is, they just have native ancestry instead of African and are a little farther away from the ecuator.

[–] crashcap@alien.top 0 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Pretty bad president for sure, but didnt you guys have some awful presidents in the late 60s / early 70s?

:(

[–] Torimas@alien.top 1 points 11 months ago

but didnt you guys have some awful presidents

Yes. For the last 100 years or so.

[–] LC1903@alien.top 1 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Obviously is wasn’t meant in a racist way imo, it’s because he comes from Quilombo, it’s just really stupid, and it’s really weird they decided to focus on that

[–] SweetJoones@alien.top 1 points 11 months ago

Dude are you black? if not, why the fuck do you think your entitled to decide what racism towards black people, really should mean? Describing someone as a slave descendant in this context, because his family 100years(!!) ago was a slaves is absoloutly fucked.

[–] black_fire@alien.top 1 points 11 months ago

lil typo is all

[–] churrosricos@alien.top 1 points 11 months ago (1 children)

I feel like that's not even racism? Just confusing? Like what compelled you to say this. wtf?

[–] pecheux@alien.top 1 points 11 months ago (1 children)

it's both tbh
there is literally no reason to highlight it on the headline. it's just fucking weird, man

[–] gerbileleventh@alien.top 1 points 11 months ago

They could very well also use “King Filipe, descendent of inbreed royals” but you know they won’t and you know why.

[–] AncientSkys@alien.top 1 points 11 months ago

The Romans enslaved them, Visigoths enslaved them and the Moors also enslaved them. Not sure why they are pretending their ancestors weren't enslaved.

[–] Usual-Fennel-3125@alien.top 0 points 11 months ago (1 children)
[–] WorthPlease@alien.top 1 points 11 months ago (1 children)

I have a good friend who is black, his family is 100% descendant of American slaves, as much as you can be.

As a native American/white dude. I would never, never refer to him a descendant of slaves.

[–] Usual-Fennel-3125@alien.top 1 points 11 months ago

Of course not. It’s really weird to do.

[–] taterlol@alien.top 0 points 11 months ago (1 children)

i think it’s common knowledge that a lot of black people in the americas were descended from slaves, especially in the states, but they meant this pejoratively which is hateful.

[–] rytlejon@alien.top 1 points 11 months ago

Why do you think they meant it pejoratively? I'm reading it as a sort of "he came from nothing and now he's doing great". The kind of story you usually get of Brazilian footballers coming from the favelas.

[–] Aleblanco1987@alien.top 0 points 11 months ago (1 children)

I don't see it as racist. It's his personal history.

It could have been worded better.

[–] VetusMortis_Advertus@alien.top 1 points 11 months ago (1 children)
[–] Aleblanco1987@alien.top 1 points 11 months ago

Is it a lie that his ancestors were slaves?