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Why I'm not willing to give up on JF1

The bears as a team including Fields had an abysmal start to the season, be it because of coaching or because of a lack of talent. In my opinion blame lies mostly with coaching, but this is a young roster with a lack of experience (which is why we are seeing this team improve on defense so much).

Then in week 4 something changed (for 3 quarters), the offense seemed to click and we put up great numbers. From week 4 till now, week 12, Justin has played some really good football. He misses some reads, sure, but if you look at every snap (which i have and sometimes this offense makes you want to poke your eyes out) he looks like a mostly good QB who needs to clean up some things, which in my opinion are coachable. In my opinion watching the games he has played after the meltdown in kansas, (excluding the vikins, because he got hurt and the offense as a whole was atrocious) he passes the eye test as a qb1.

He is going through his progressions, checking plays at the line (there is still a good amount of progression to be made here, but he is atleast servicable at this) and he is getting the ball out quicker. He is good at extending plays and when he gets out the pocket he is a pass first qb, which suprised me, because he is such a dynamic runner with the football. He can beat a team with his legs, has one of the best (if not the best) deepballs in the NFL and is starting to get better at the short and intermediate level.

Now for the people who don't care about how somebody looks out on the field and want to look at statistics, here they are.

Passing 4 weeks:

  • 1003 yards (250.75 ypg)
  • 86/124 for 69.4% completed passes
  • Passer rating of 114.42 (only 5 qb's have a rating over 100 this season)
  • 9 TD's
  • 1 INT

Rushing 4 weeks:

  • 245 yards (61 ypg)
  • 5.5 ypa
  • 4 fumbles
  • 3 fumbles lost

Season (17 games):

  • 4263 passing yards
  • 1041 rushing yards
  • 69.4% complete
  • 38 Td's
  • 4 ints
  • 17 fumbles (13 lost)

So that would mean Justin would have 5304 total yards with 38 TD's (which could be more if he gets some rushing TD's which he hasn't in these 4 weeks) 4 INT's with 17 fumbles (lost 13). This would be a 9.5 : 1 TD/INT ratio and a 2.2 : 1 TD/TO ratio.

Don't get me wrong Justin still has things he needs to work on (fumbles, reading defenses and throwinflg with anticipation), but if you 1) look at the tape, he is playing confident and going through his progressions more + adjustments and checks at the LOS, which he has improved upon since coming in the league 2) look at the statistics 3) look at the team (we are in a rebuild with guys who need time to develop and gel together). Justin has what it takes to be a top QB in this league, granted he needs to clean up the fumbles and shows more progression reading the defense, which he has done so far.

Would love to hear opinions on this and answer any questions that you might have (and let's please keep it civil)

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[–] Difficult_E@alien.top 1 points 1 year ago

Chicago meatball realizes that as soon as he posts outside the team sub, that the rest of the league thinks they’re a fucking joke for trying to roll with Fields

[–] Only_Garbage_8885@alien.top 1 points 1 year ago

He almost never calls an audible pre snap and looks like a deer in headlights. If he actually went through progressions then players like Mooney would actually get the ball thrown to them as they are open all the time. Bagent is not a good qb but at least he can spread the ball around.

It’s like a lot of Bears fans look at the stats and don’t watch the games. Fields could not throw downfield on Monday night at all and would just run in circles before throwing it away or running out of bounds.

[–] Colts_1995@alien.top 1 points 1 year ago

He's just not good enough. You're gonna have to face facts. Either you got it or you don't, pass or fail.

[–] twl221@alien.top 1 points 1 year ago

As a Packer fan, I hope for nothing more than the Bears to stick with Fields as their QB. Would remind me a lot of the Cutler extension where just about every Packer fan I knew was more than happy they gave him that contract.

[–] Wh00ster@alien.top 1 points 1 year ago

I think he’s a good backup or a decent starter in a team with lots of weapons. Seems like a nice guy.

[–] LuckyAssumption8735@alien.top 1 points 1 year ago

What more evidence do you need that QB play in Chicago peaked in 2005? Sex Cannon was the pinnacle

[–] BellacosePlayer@alien.top 1 points 1 year ago

Well, I'm convinced.

[–] SomeRandomRealtor@alien.top 1 points 1 year ago

The bears defense generated 8 turnovers in the last 2 weeks and their offense scored only 2 total touchdowns between those games. Fields has moments because he’s athletic but the only reason you won against the Vikings is because DJ Moore was somehow open by 10 yards in the middle of the field with a perfect pocket (why didn’t the Vikes rush him there?). The lions game was lost because they couldnt capitalize on good defensive play.

Fields is a bust. He get flustered easily. He has zero ball security. And he struggles to climb or move the pocket and get to his next read. I feel like he’s still trying to hit home run balls instead of learning to take 5-10 yard check downs. You have a chance to get one of two seemingly generational QBs, you gotta move on from JF.

[–] eaunoway@alien.top 1 points 1 year ago

I thought this thread was going to be a really neat comparison of all the Justins playing this season and now I'm really sad because it's not. 😿

[–] allergic2URbullshit@alien.top 1 points 11 months ago

Yes please keep him so the Raiders ain't gotta deal with him. 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂👍