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After Raising $235K, Abode Remains Committed to Taking on Adobe (petapixel.com)

submitted 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) by simple@lemm.ee to c/technology@lemmy.world

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TL;DR:

Semple, a multi-disciplinary British artist, promised to build “a brand new suite of world-class design and photography tools, with an uncanny similarity to the tools you’ve been indoctrinated in.”

“There’s a really urgent need for a suite of creative tools for creators that they actually own rather than rent. In a way, this first started when Adobe and Pantone decided to paywall the Pantone colors and I created Freetone — which was a free color plugin so creators could continue to access their palette,” he says.

“I have lawyers, and I’ve taken advice. We have solid plans in place. I would also point out that nobody has seen the final branding and no software that infringes on any of Adobe’s trademarks has been produced,”

“I have successfully challenged IP owned by Tiffany and Co, Pantone, Mattel, and others over the years. I feel we have a good and thorough understanding of where the legal line is and an ability to get as close to that as possible without overstepping it.”

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[–] ddnomad@infosec.pub 3 points 1 year ago (4 children)

I'm highly sceptical of this shipping in a state that can compete with Adobe at the end of it all. The branding itself is asking for trouble, which is just plain stupid if you are serious about long-term and sustainable development of the whole suite, and 180k is not enough to even put together a competent alternative to Illustrator, not to mention Photoshop and InDesign.

And before people start claiming that you can fund this by outsourcing to Eastern Europe / India etc, please bear in mind that you usually get what you pay for. A competent developer with enough experience to actually make this happen won't come cheap, and opportunistic juniors with big ambitions won't deliver.

I wish this project all the luck it can get, but I'm personally banking on Graphite and Inkscape from the FOSS world and Affinity suite from (as of yet) less corpo commercial offerings.

[–] Vastris31@lemm.ee 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

While your skepticism is valid, it's important to consider that competition doesn't solely rely on branding but also on innovation, user experience, and pricing. The concerns about funding and developer quality are legitimate, but success can be achieved by striking the right balance. While alternatives like Graphite, Inkscape, and Affinity have their merits, it's worth keeping an eye on emerging projects as well. For a broader perspective on outsourcing development, this article on IT outsourcing in Europe (https://www.cleveroad.com/blog/it-outsourcing-europe/) can provide insights into potential options and considerations for ensuring competent and successful development, addressing some of the concerns raised.

[–] artsemlaz@lemm.ee 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

TL;DR:

Semple, a multi-disciplinary British artist, promised to build “a brand new suite of world-class design and photography tools, with an uncanny similarity to the tools you’ve been indoctrinated in.”

“There’s a really urgent need for a suite of creative tools for creators that they actually own rather than rent. In a way, this first started when Adobe and Pantone decided to paywall the Pantone colors and I created Freetone — which was a free color plugin so creators could continue to access their palette,” he says.

“I have lawyers, and I’ve taken advice. We have solid plans in place. I would also point out that nobody has seen the final branding and no software that infringes on any of Adobe’s trademarks has been produced,”

“I have successfully challenged IP owned by Tiffany and Co, Pantone, Mattel, and others over the years. I feel we have a good and thorough understanding of where the legal line is and an ability to get as close to that as possible without overstepping it.”

Creating a new design is always an arduous task. I like how you discussed a British artist Semple. His aim is to create new design and photography tools in competition with Adobe. I think that the competition in the startup area is so high that you can't relax even for a minute. Plus I liked how you addressed concerns with regard to legal issues and the importance of innovation and competition in tech startup ideas. As we talk about startups and raising capital I advise you to look at this article about tech startup ideas. The most popular niches for growing startups for now are Artificial Intelligence, Telehealth and Virtual Medical Services, and Remote Working. EdTech Startup, Biotech Startups, and IoT startups.

[–] djquadratic@kbin.social 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Case in point. I’m still waking up and thought that said adobe is taking on adobe

[–] Zagorath@aussie.zone 1 points 1 year ago

It took until reading your comment and then going back to check the title again for me to realise it didn’t say Adobe twice.

[–] MyNameIsIgglePiggle@sh.itjust.works 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Just to add in here, a few years back I decided to make a project to cut adobe out of my life.

I wanted to start by giving all the FOSS tools a go first.

In the end, I decided none of them were up to scratch. Inkscape is clunky AF, gimp is a PITA, darktable was pretty clunky but usable.

In any case I landed on the affinity suite for a PS, Illustrator, and InDesign alternative, and I got very cheap / free versions of Skylum Luminar for Lightroom although that's going to shit with every release.

DaVinchi for video editing. Not yet found a competent replacement for AE.

[–] Zagorath@aussie.zone 1 points 1 year ago

The only open source replacement for Adobe that really works for me is Audacity. And that’s probably more because I’m not a very advanced audio editor compared to my demands when it comes to photo and video editing tools, rather than an actual statement on the quality of the tool itself.

[–] hardypart@feddit.de 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

and opportunistic juniors with big ambitions won’t deliver.

Have you ever heard about photopea.com? Made by ONE guy.

[–] ddnomad@infosec.pub 1 points 1 year ago

I've never heard of that project, looks pretty cool! To be clear, I do not say that "one guy" cannot possibly make great software. Passion projects are a thing. What differentiates them from the Abode situation, in my opinion, is that passion projects rarely have strict deadlines and paying backers who expect software that is Adobe-level in terms of quality and polish in a roughly 1 year.

[–] Ddhuud@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Took me 3 reads to notice that ABODE is not ADOBE

Maybe I'm a little dyslexic after 8 hours of work.

[–] ultratiem@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Bruh, till I read this I was so confused, like Adobe is taking on Adobe? lol, what?

[–] poquito_cabeza@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

I thought the article was going to be about a trademark dispute, lol.

[–] mtchristo@lemm.ee 0 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Color me skeptical

The Foss community already tried for years. And the gap is widening even more thanks to AI.

[–] p03locke@lemmy.dbzer0.com 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Speak for yourself. GIMP rules, and DaVinci Resolve (not OSS, but still free) does just fine.

Fuck Adobe.

[–] OtakuAltair@lemm.ee 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Davinci is straight up way better than premiere lol

[–] MetaStatistical@lemmy.film 0 points 1 year ago

DaVinci has its quirks and one or two things I wished it had. But, it is far more feature-rich than 95% of the population needs. And for the other 5%, there's plenty of plugins.

[–] NotAPenguin@kbin.social -2 points 1 year ago

Affinity is a great Adobe alternative.