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I figure at some point they'll just stagger what gets shut down, so everyone eventually gets fatigue trying to track if they'll be working and getting paid out of a pool of 50+ different shutdown deadlines with vague descriptions of who is impacted and who isnt.

Let me break it down.

Using their only real leverage to extract some concessions: good.

Messaging like they're desperados in a gunfight with Trump when he barely remembers their names, instead of using the moment to effectively communicate to voters a narrow pro-worker agenda guided by deep principles and not data firm triangulated bullet points: bad.

Publicly talking about giving up before they get anything at all, because they have no spine: bad.

Not publicly talking about doing whatever it takes, and instead trying to approach Trump and radiating weakness the entire time they do it: bad.

Not making Trump send his designated negotiator to come to them, like someone with leverage does: bad.

Inevitably folding before they get anything of substance: bad.

Do you remember when Democrats briefly tried to message to the youths on social media and recorded that terrible "choose your fighter" montage because video games, and all it served to do was communicate how deeply out of touch they are at a Pokemon Go to the polls level? They even roped AOC into it. I'm confident she thought it was a terrible idea but went along with it to make nice and maybe because she was just happy they were trying literally anything. And then it disappeared immediately because of the above and they just gave up completely after that? And now poor 110-year-old Bernie is out there trying to engage with voters practically single handedly, except when AOC joins him, while the animated corpse of Chuck Schumer imagines he's playing 8D chess but coming across like Milton from Office Space.

Yes. Russian agent or not, there are many on here doing their work.

Not exactly. The focus is on those two Democrats. They have consistently failed on this exact issue. Do we really think they'll succeed now? No, we don't... But look, if they make a stand, good for them!

Many of the other Democrats in Congress have a spine, and we respect them more because of it, relatively speaking.

You'd be surprised how many users here were a part of the protest vote against Harris.

Who cares what the purpose is? The result is going to be feckless leaders being pussies. As long as those two are in charge, we’re done

Not good but about the only in strategy the left has right now is pissing off his base and pissing off the people that carry out his orders. Stopping paychecks is a pretty good way to do that.

if they want to mortally wound the USD and find out what happens i am all for it