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Meta’s “overpriced” ad-free subscriptions make privacy a “luxury good”: EU suit (arstechnica.com)

submitted 11 months ago by throws_lemy@lemmy.nz to c/technology@lemmy.world

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[–] Rocketpoweredgorilla@lemmy.ca 77 points 11 months ago (1 children)

how does ad-free = privacy when they're still scraping all your data?

[–] ohlaph@lemmy.world 27 points 11 months ago (1 children)

It's the implication.

[–] kambusha@feddit.ch 16 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (1 children)

D- Demonstrate value

E- Engage virtually

N- Nurture dependence

N- Neglect privacy

I- Inspire hope

S- Shittification

[–] CoolMatt@lemmy.world 5 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Who the fuck is Dennis

[–] thirteene@lemmy.world 6 points 11 months ago

Dennis is a specifically assaultive character from the fantastic TV series It's always sunny in Philadelphia; that invented a system of picking up women using an acrostic of his name.

https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F070ac53e-a12d-4b3a-8a69-281592cb45e8_498x351.gif

The TV series is crass but hilarious. Highly recommend watching

[–] Iwasondigg@lemmy.one 34 points 11 months ago

Or you could just not use Facebook.

[–] stopthatgirl7@kbin.social 28 points 11 months ago (3 children)

The fee on Facebook costs 9.99 euros/month on the web or 12.99 euros/month on iOS and Android, which currently covers linked Instagram accounts. However, starting March 1, 2024, costs will go up. After that date, linking your Instagram or additional Meta accounts to your subscription will cost an extra 6 euros/month on the web and 8 euros/month on iOS and Android.

Oh yeah. That’s ridiculous. No one is going to pay that much per month for fricking Facebook. And they’ve got to know that. Their real money comes from all the data they sell, and they don’t want to actually risk it.

[–] FlavoredButtHair@lemmy.world 27 points 11 months ago

Wait until years later they get caught "sneakily selling data of paid users".

[–] Honytawk@lemmy.zip 12 points 11 months ago

They know exactly what they were doing.

Google makes 3€ profit per user per month on big video ads, the most profitable type of advertisements.

There is no way Facebook makes any more than 2€ per user per month, so asking 10€ is blatant disrespect.

And if that 10€ would mean they stopped tracking it would have some merit. But no, it just stops adverts, your data still gets used for everyone elses ads.

Glad so many EU privacy councils saw through the lies and are suing Facebook.

[–] Abnorc@lemm.ee 2 points 11 months ago

When I was in middle school (over ten years ago now, lol) I could have imagined people paying that much. We did a lot of connecting and socializing on Facebook. Over time I lost interest in the site though, and I think after I lost interest it got worse.

If anyone is still really entrenched in it with their friends, they may pay for it.

Who are we kidding though. Anyone stuck with Facebook for whatever reason will just take the ads.

[–] LWD@lemm.ee 18 points 11 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (1 children)

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[–] Honytawk@lemmy.zip 1 points 11 months ago

Nah, moving to the mountains during the middle ages was pretty cheap.

[–] Ghostalmedia@lemmy.world 15 points 11 months ago

Oh, you’re still being tracked.

[–] onlinepersona@programming.dev 7 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Why do people do their absolute hardest to keep these shitty services alive? Facebook and Insta aren't necessary to survive. If they are too expensive to use and too ad-riddled, people will leave them. Stop giving them a reason to stay. "Reasonable price" is a reason.

[–] Maalus@lemmy.world 3 points 11 months ago

Because people don't care and they want to upload the picture of their baby. They don't care that they see ads, they most likely don't know they are being tracked.

[–] andrew_bidlaw@sh.itjust.works 7 points 11 months ago

While the assumption is not correct as they still harvest your data, the headline is true. Jeff Bezos can have no e-mail, no phone number, because if you need him, you'd find a way through his various representatives if not filtered out. If your boss wants to contact you, you are pretty much mandated to have channels for their requests, being logged into WhatsApp for their workchat, and being harassed if you miss something posted here.

[–] Roflmasterbigpimp@lemmy.world 5 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (2 children)

Is Facebook really still relevant? I know people use Instagram but Facebook?

Btw. I hate that I have to conesnt first (or Pay) so I can go to the Settings to delete my Account.

[–] RmDebArc_5@lemmy.ml 9 points 11 months ago

Facebooks monthly active users are pretty stable/have grown in the last years

[–] lolcatnip@reddthat.com 3 points 11 months ago

Very much so. Your bubble isn't representative of the internet.

[–] Gazumi@lemmy.world 2 points 11 months ago

If they set the pricing for the use of their services, this would naturally correlate with the price they pay all those who have their data mined without consent or opt out. Let's hope that this is a feature of every litigation or other challenge to Meta