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[–] ch00f@lemmy.world 79 points 4 days ago (2 children)

The extreme detour of the recurrent laryngeal nerves, about 4.6 metres (15 ft) in the case of giraffes,[32]: 74–75  has been cited as evidence of evolution, as the nerve's route would have been direct in the fish-like ancestors of modern tetrapods, traveling from the brain, past the heart, to the gills (as it does in modern fish).

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Recurrent_laryngeal_nerve

[–] wischi@programming.dev 56 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Intelligent design. Same with our eyes 🤣 just put them in backwards and thread the cables through the retina; genius. Octopuses are clearly gods chosen "people".

[–] shalafi@lemmy.world 26 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (1 children)

The intelligent design geniuses argue that the eye is too complex to have evolved.

"Of course it didn't evolve like that! It started with a patch of light-sensitive cells and worked it's way up from there. And that's happened more than once."

They have to think evolution means that creatures and features popped into existence fully formed. Not only because that's how the Bible tells it, they can't comprehend evolution on a 7,000-yo Earth. And neither can I!

You've got the killer argument though. "Why didn't God bother to make our eyes like he did with the octopus?"

[–] faythofdragons@slrpnk.net 9 points 4 days ago (8 children)

I remember my stepdad citing Pokemon in his arguments against evolution

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[–] Egonallanon@feddit.uk 13 points 4 days ago

The same nerve also exists in giraffes and does the same thing so it is consequently fucking massive.

[–] picnic@lemmy.world 47 points 4 days ago (7 children)

Are those zipties? I fucking hate zipties whenever cleaning out old installs. They're just about always so tight it feels uncomfortable to cut those when youre dealing with fibres or just about anything, really.

I use velcro ties myself most of the times. If I absolutely have to use zipties, I leave then so loose that they're just guiding the cabling, not choking it.

Just today I cleaned out one +15 years old install and oh boy, multiple zipties there. Awful

[–] Revan343@lemmy.ca 20 points 4 days ago (3 children)

They're just about always so tight it feels uncomfortable to cut those when youre dealing with fibres or just about anything

Use dikes, not a knife, and cut the head of the tie, not the strap

[–] untorquer@lemmy.world 6 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (1 children)

YES

Flush cutters specifically. And you cut the side of the head opposite the tail with the cutter flat against the face of the tail passing through the head.

[–] Evil_Shrubbery@thelemmy.club 4 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (6 children)

Can't believe ppl just use knives, lol, I would cut all the things with a knife.

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[–] dejected_warp_core@lemmy.world 15 points 4 days ago (1 children)

They’re just about always so tight it feels uncomfortable to cut those when youre dealing with fibres or just about anything, really.

Exactly. Let's use a securing mechanism that requires a razor-sharp blade, held perilously close to what you don't want to cut, in order to undo.

[–] Evil_Shrubbery@thelemmy.club 6 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (2 children)

One of these are safe-ish (not razor-sharp):

Eh, personally, i'd still find a way to screw that up.

[–] untorquer@lemmy.world 4 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (4 children)

These were my goto. I miss them 🥲

Snap-On

But the steel stamped type that come in every electronics kit work as well.

[–] Evil_Shrubbery@thelemmy.club 3 points 3 days ago

Can confirm, I have my father's that are prob 40 or 50 years old. Hard blue handles.

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[–] cynar@piefed.social 4 points 3 days ago

Might I introduce you to the wonder of reusable cable ties?

They have a release tab. You can undo them, adjust the cables, then retighten them.

Velcro is great, till it starts losing it's grip.

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[–] DarkAri@lemmy.blahaj.zone 15 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (1 children)

There are a few flaws with that in reality. One is too much risk consolidation. Having every artery in the same place means that it's a very easy target for animals or other humans. Another is that it requires far more complexity to actually distribute resources isometricly relative to their need. It's also easier for disease to grow tumors in a giant mass of blood vessels since they are very homogenous. Another downside is that heat is not distributed evenly so it greatly increases the amount of energy that has to be spent on building auxiliary blood vessels which means the animal has to eat more to achieve the same reproductive success.

Life in reality is balancing many things. Thermal efficiency is a big one, material efficiency is another. Defensibility is a big one, and also genetic simplicity is another. Your body is procedurally generated, not created from a blueprint really. Cells create structure via functional logic in large part, although there are hox genes which encode some basic directionality and relative spatial cell differentiation based on its neighbors and the proteins they are presenting on their membranes.

In other words your body is generated more like a Minecraft world and creating very clean wiring and tubing even if there was pressure for it, would be something that would require a ton of genetic complexity. More complexity means that every single cell has to copy these extra hundreds of genes whenever it copies it's DNA, which raises the overall thermal and nutrient cost linearly. This is the reason people are beautiful on the outside but on the inside look very strange. We do put many of our evolutionary resources into beauty but not in places where it will likely never be seen.

[–] Evil_Shrubbery@thelemmy.club 11 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (2 children)

Actually I was master debating myself which way to make the meme.

Both seem funny & inaccurate.

What I posted hints to random design without neatness as a priority, yet facilitated necessities in regards to environment (you know, evolution).

The alternative validates how stupid neat cable management would be:

[–] HeyThisIsntTheYMCA@lemmy.world 6 points 3 days ago (2 children)

we were designed by slime mold that's what it comes down to

[–] Evil_Shrubbery@thelemmy.club 5 points 3 days ago (1 children)
[–] HeyThisIsntTheYMCA@lemmy.world 3 points 3 days ago (1 children)

i mean i do get rather euphoric when i'm around my wife, what with all those wife spores she emits constantly

[–] Evil_Shrubbery@thelemmy.club 3 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (1 children)

Your wife cultivating their own microsphere and convectively creates airflows to disperse their spores?
Great wife material, you must be an adequate substrate.

[–] HeyThisIsntTheYMCA@lemmy.world 2 points 3 days ago (1 children)

i mean they ain't callin me uncle ben because i'm dead

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[–] hopesdead@startrek.website 45 points 4 days ago (2 children)

Engineering isn’t so different from medical.

[–] wischi@programming.dev 19 points 4 days ago (13 children)

Is it though? There isn't one part in the human body that has exactly one specific purpose. Everything is something mushy with basically one main purpose and a ton of side-quests. Almost the exact opposite of what engineers prefer.

[–] Pelicanen@sopuli.xyz 23 points 4 days ago

Squeezing multiple features into single components? Sounds exactly like what engineers do.

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[–] samus12345@sh.itjust.works 8 points 4 days ago

"Commander Riker has dramatically demonstrated to this court that Lieutenant Commander Data is a machine. Do we deny that? No. Because it is not relevant. We too are machines, just machines of a different type."

[–] Wilco@lemmy.zip 29 points 4 days ago (2 children)

I think the funniest part of this post is the nightmares people are getting from zip ties.

[–] untorquer@lemmy.world 5 points 3 days ago (1 children)

I can hear the crunch as i walk across the zip-tie/tail laden floor after several hours fixing the mess my boss made 20yr ago.

hey i only made this mess last year it just looks that way

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[–] RVGamer06@sh.itjust.works 9 points 3 days ago
[–] ShittDickk@lemmy.world 11 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Then you look up and unplug everything.

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[–] iamdefinitelyoverthirteen@lemmy.world 6 points 3 days ago (1 children)

I'm currently wiring up a 32U power distribution and test rack with about 1000 discrete wire connections, so I am feeling this to my core.

[–] Evil_Shrubbery@thelemmy.club 2 points 3 days ago

Zip-tie the tip ties together! :)

[–] Know_not_Scotty_does@lemmy.world 13 points 4 days ago (5 children)

Cable bundles like that are not flexible enough to move properly without straining the cables. You have to do concentric twists for that F1/Aerospace quality cable management.

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[–] ininewcrow@lemmy.ca 12 points 4 days ago (3 children)

God wiring his new creation: .... oh yeah I need a cable for the heart ... oh yeah, I need a cable to power the lungs ... oh yeah, almost forgot, need a cable for the liver ... oh yeah, need a cable to control the legs ... oh yeah, need some sensor lines for the hands ... oh crap, wired the genital sensor lines wrong ... oh shit, no more room for the lines for the kidneys, maybe if I wire it this way ... shit, need more power lines for the stomach ... crap, need more sensor lines here ... shit, shit, shit, I need more power lines

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[–] Bakkoda@sh.itjust.works 11 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Cable comb and a vertebrae are literally the same thing. Prove me wrong.

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[–] thesohoriots@lemmy.world 9 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Nah man that’s all good copper wire in there rip it out and sell it

[–] Evil_Shrubbery@thelemmy.club 7 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago)

there is no copper in these organic veins

That is exactly what a copper vein would say!

[–] Imgonnatrythis@sh.itjust.works 7 points 4 days ago (2 children)

Please. Tell Me those aren't zip ties though!

[–] dejected_warp_core@lemmy.world 7 points 4 days ago (3 children)

They show up in the worst places. Top offenders are inside A/C units and car engines. Yanno, where there's lots of vibration to help the little bastards cut through insulation.

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