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[–] rbesfe@lemmy.ca 5 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Cost of these things is part of it, but honestly used Tesla and bolts are getting relatively cheap now. The biggest problem I see is charging infrastructure, specifically in apartment buildings.

[–] betanumerus@lemmy.ca 3 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

It isn't a problem for those owning their driveway. I don't even know how to count the number of home owners in Canada.

[–] jaemo@sh.itjust.works 5 points 1 week ago

My partner just picked up a used Nissan leaf last Friday. I already have an older Ioniq. Not a chance in hell we'd drive an ICE ever again.

[–] betanumerus@lemmy.ca 4 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Those complaining about price chose to be blind about second-hand, depreciated EVs.

Those complaining about charging chose to be blind about the greater convenience of charging at home.

[–] cyberpunk007@lemmy.ca 4 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Gee I wonder why? Nobody has any money.

[–] betanumerus@lemmy.ca 2 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Plenty of cars on the roads, plenty of affordable second-hand EVs for sale.

[–] cyberpunk007@lemmy.ca 1 points 1 week ago

But the people selling the vehicles likely are buying a different vehicle afterwards.

[–] ProgrammingSocks@pawb.social 2 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I've always said that electric cars are basically a red herring for improving society. I don't really care much because it's a lateral move. Call me when we start getting electric cars of the train variety.

[–] betanumerus@lemmy.ca 3 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

No matter how you try to twist it, less noise, higher torque, regen braking, no local emissions and home charging are better for society.

[–] ProgrammingSocks@pawb.social 1 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Marginally, compared to the large detriment that car dependency objectively is, and the raw materials extraction required for everybody to own 1, 2, 3+ cars. My comparison isn't with ICE cars, it's with functional public transit systems. I don't wish to argue about the particulars because inherently cars are the wrong solution to moving a lot of people around, because it's bad for society and doesn't even scale well, evidenced by the 401 and many other major highways.