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As always, the paying user has the worst experience. "Purchase" a show, can only watch on a certain console of a certain brand, no transfers, no backups, then it suddenly disappears from the library and nothing can be done.

If media companies insist on draconian DRM, then they should pay for full refunds to their loyal customers when one day they decide to delist that specific show.

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[–] metaStatic@kbin.social 371 points 2 years ago (3 children)

if buying isn't owning piracy isn't stealing

[–] aldalire@lemmy.dbzer0.com 46 points 2 years ago (3 children)

I wish u could retweet a lemmy comment. Well said.

[–] cupcakezealot@lemmy.blahaj.zone 40 points 2 years ago (7 children)

technically you can since lemmy, kbin, and mastodon all use activitypub :P

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[–] metaStatic@kbin.social 24 points 2 years ago

welcome to the fediverse. Boost = retweet ;)

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[–] DebatableRaccoon@lemmy.ca 24 points 2 years ago

Fairer words have never been spoken

[–] netchami@sh.itjust.works 111 points 2 years ago (1 children)
[–] TheLobotomist@lemmy.dbzer0.com 9 points 2 years ago

Cool tattoo idea!

[–] interceder270@lemmy.world 58 points 2 years ago

"As always, the paying user has the worst experience."

So true.

[–] CaptObvious@literature.cafe 43 points 2 years ago (2 children)

And this is why I never “buy” media online. If I can’t own the media and enjoy the content whenever and wherever I want, it’s rented. I may be ok with that, but I never let them claim that it was a sale.

[–] SamXavia@kbin.run 16 points 2 years ago (2 children)

Sadly purchasing a phyical copy still will mean you can't play it due to the required download for most consoles these days.

[–] MajorTom@lemmy.world 12 points 2 years ago (2 children)

That's one reason I've ordered a few titles from PlayAsia recently. For example, the NTSC switch edition of the Metal Gear Solid collection requires downloading the titles. With the PlayAsia edition, lo and behold- everything is on the card, and multiple languages to boot.

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[–] CaptObvious@literature.cafe 9 points 2 years ago

Hence “and enjoy it whenever and wherever I want.” If they maintain control, it’s not sold. It is, at best, rented.

Fortunately, there are often tools to enforce the first sale doctrine.

[–] crit@links.hackliberty.org 12 points 2 years ago (2 children)

Buy it for the convenience and for the good Devs, pirate it after if they try taking it away. You already paid for it

[–] CaptObvious@literature.cafe 9 points 2 years ago

Exactly.

It's much the same as creators in Second Life who don't want to sell in the Opensim metaverse. I get where they're coming from in terms of protecting a recurring revenue stream, but if the customer has already paid for the product once, under first sale doctrine, they have the right to continue using it.

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[–] radioactiveradio@lemm.ee 41 points 2 years ago

Now THAT is stealing.

[–] the16bitgamer@lemmy.world 40 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Alright, what this looks like is Sony's deal with Discovery to sell and host their TV shows has been removed. From my quick glance there are no games being removed.

Still is BS, and beyond ridiculous. But it was inevitably going to happen at some point.

I am more pissed that I got informed that they are doing this from here instead of being told that I am losing my Myth Busters.

[–] madcaesar@lemmy.world 21 points 2 years ago (1 children)

But it was inevitably going to happen at some point.

If you believed this, wtf would you ever give them your money to begin with???

[–] the16bitgamer@lemmy.world 27 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Because it was 2009, I was I kid, and I saw Mythbusters and I said yes. I learnt my lesson when they remove PlayStation Video years ago from PS3, and the PSP. I didn't even know I could re-download it until I stumbled upon it in a menu years later.

I am just hoping and praying that this will not extend to their games. Sony's been pretty good about game ownership to this point, look at those who bought the PT Demo and can still play it.

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[–] Sterben@lemmy.world 36 points 2 years ago (1 children)

That's one reason why Piracy will always exist, am I right?

[–] spacecowboy@sh.itjust.works 42 points 2 years ago

It’s why it must exist.

[–] MonkderZweite@feddit.ch 36 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

"But you only ever owned a usage-license, which we now suspended" strawman argument incoming.

Well duh, then i don't have "buyed" but rented it. Usage of those terms by platforms should be sued as misleading.

[–] ColeSloth@discuss.tchncs.de 35 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Like.... They're straight up taking it back? No refunding? That is so asinine.

[–] linearchaos@lemmy.world 37 points 2 years ago (4 children)

"We sincerely thank you for your continued support."

Not only are they not refunding, They seem to think you might purchase something else from them in the future.

[–] ColeSloth@discuss.tchncs.de 7 points 2 years ago

And idiots will do it, too.

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[–] Scrof@sopuli.xyz 34 points 2 years ago (2 children)

Modern consoles are a scam.

[–] interceder270@lemmy.world 16 points 2 years ago

Yeah, I stopped buying'em when they started charging for 2nd internet.

Fucking rubes ruin everything I swear lol.

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[–] DeathWearsANecktie@lemm.ee 22 points 2 years ago

Fucking assholes. This is why piracy is justifiable, and in some cases, even necessary.

[–] Blue_Morpho@lemmy.world 20 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

This won't change until someone sells a yacht to a Senator with fine print that it's only a perpetual license. Then comes back 3 years later and takes the yacht citing the fine print in the contract.

[–] Tygr@lemmy.world 18 points 2 years ago

If I’m to believe I own the crap I buy that’s digital delivery, then if they want to take it back, they need to buy it from me at my price.

[–] AceBonobo@lemmy.world 17 points 2 years ago (2 children)

Discovery Entitlements Affected Titles

As of 31 December 2023, due to our content licensing arrangements with content providers, you will no longer be able to watch any of your previously purchased Discovery content and the content will be removed from your video library.

We sincerely thank you for your continued support.

Thank you,

PlayStation Store

[–] brygphilomena@lemmy.world 9 points 2 years ago (3 children)

Turns out you people didn't actually purchase it.

I wonder if anywhere in the "purchase" terms they included "while Sony holds the license to distribute."

I hate that "purchases" people make are restricted per platform. If I "purchase" a specific title it should be available on any and all platforms that serve that content. No one should be asked to purchase it on Sony. Apple, Netflix, Amazon, or whatever other shitty streaming service comes out.

As much as I think nfts are fucking retarded, this could be one of the few cases where that stupid digital receipt might make sense.

[–] NoIWontPickaName@kbin.social 7 points 2 years ago

Y’arr Matey🏴‍☠️

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[–] DebatableRaccoon@lemmy.ca 17 points 2 years ago (3 children)

God, I hope these bastards get sued 'cause little doubt they won't be refunding the poor schmos who've just been robbed of their property.

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[–] SendMePhotos@lemmy.world 16 points 2 years ago (2 children)

If I purchased it, do I get store credit for losing what I bought?

[–] Frozengyro@lemmy.world 11 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Yes, but since it's "used", you get .1 percent what you paid for it.

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[–] DebatableRaccoon@lemmy.ca 11 points 2 years ago

That's funny. You should do stand-up

just got my multi season science fiction show downloaded via the salty seas. apparantly it would cost $50-85 to download or stream from the "legit" vendor. A vendor that bought the rights and closed the ability to access previous seasons. So, not going well for the loyal customers.

[–] ddkman@lemm.ee 13 points 2 years ago

I think when this happens you DO get a refund, (usually a coupon for the same service, but still). This is a situation where villanizing Sony would be, but not necessarily correct. Obviously they have no interest to remove previously purchased content from user libraries. (like this).

So the question is, on what possible grounds can a company change licensing AFTER sales have been made. This is the same fucking mess as with the soundtrack being retroactively removed from GTAIV. How is this legal?

[–] CosmicCleric@lemmy.world 11 points 2 years ago

That list of shows that's being removed is huge too.

God I hope people reconsider purchasing products from companies that do these kind of things to them.

At some point you think if they get smacked up the side of their heads enough times that they will actually wake up and do something about it.

[–] pan_troglodytes@programming.dev 9 points 2 years ago

almost like "purchasing" it was the real crime.

[–] Lath@kbin.social 8 points 2 years ago

Whoever wrote that list probably isn't being paid enough.

[–] noobdoomguy8658@feddit.de 8 points 2 years ago

That's 1318 items, according to that table, counting by seasons. Insane.

[–] KpochMX@lemmy.dbzer0.com 8 points 2 years ago

This is why i hate digital only and no more game disc, also battlepass and dlc.

you own nothing but pays the full price for the permission to play and they cant remove access at any time.-

Marvel vs capcom 2 its my favorite game and they removed from store, i know is about licensing but they will not come to my house for the DVD Disc right?

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