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Recent reports have announced that Crunchyroll, the largest anime streaming service, will be replacing Aegisub with Israeli Software, OOONA, to produce subtitles more efficiently. Anime fans across the world are disappointed with this collaboration due to Israel’s ongoing genocide against Palestinians (via a report by the United Nations Commission of Inquiry).

Crunchyroll is also ignoring the needs of groups who require Closed Captions to understand the scenes better. They are isolating a large chunk of their audience in favor of AI-based subtitling, which defeats the point of a streaming service. Overall, this hasn’t been a great year for Crunchyroll, and this won’t be the end of it.

EDIT: Link was taken down thanks to someone in the comments here's the archive for the page https://web.archive.org/web/20251004184506/https://fandomwire.com/crunchyroll-faces-cancelation-why-anime-fans-are-choosing-piracy-after-latest-update/

https://bsky.app/profile/lamhfada.bsky.social/post/3m2c3udxnjc2u

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[–] Lumidaub@feddit.org 212 points 4 weeks ago (6 children)

Fansubs have always been superior.

[–] Eeyore_Syndrome@sh.itjust.works 99 points 4 weeks ago (1 children)

Remembers all the fan sub opening/ending Karaoke so I could actually understand songs too. 🥹

[–] themachinestops@lemmy.dbzer0.com 35 points 4 weeks ago

Steins Gate fansubs were amazing.

[–] exu@feditown.com 51 points 4 weeks ago (2 children)

There are barely any real fansubs left. Most are Crunchyroll, Netflix or Funimation restyled and maybe retimed plus checked if they spent a lot of time on it.

[–] Vanilla_PuddinFudge@infosec.pub 29 points 4 weeks ago

I'm an old pirate who remembers, and the thing, the raw ingredient missing in this scenario?

need

If it didn't exist, if there was no possible way to get a copy of somesuch Gundam episode whatever in english, some dude somewhere would cross the ends of the earth to get it onto the internet. Piracy is motivated entirely by utility and need, it's why music piracy atrophied into almost nothing until Soulseek arrived and streaming prices increased. Supply met demand, and it will again for fansubs.

If it's needed, someone will meet the need. We did it in 1998, we'll do it next year.

[–] missphant@lemmy.blahaj.zone 19 points 4 weeks ago

And that's honestly all that's needed, the official translations are usually perfectly fine. The elaborate typesetting is what makes the fansubs so good.

[–] themachinestops@lemmy.dbzer0.com 21 points 4 weeks ago (1 children)

Agreed, It very noticeable how bad the subs are. I remember watching an the terminator anime and the subs were atrocious.

https://reddit.com/r/television/comments/1f4cj61/netflixs_wellanimated_terminator_zero_starts/?

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[–] CosmoNova@lemmy.world 19 points 4 weeks ago

That‘s how Crunchyroll itself started out if I remember correctly. Now look at it, completely unrecognizable. It‘s exemplary for how things have been progressing or rather regressing this century so far.

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[–] vateso5074@lemmy.world 184 points 4 weeks ago (2 children)

Don't forget that Crunchyroll is also owned by Sony, who have basically picked up a monopoly on anime streaming services by buying out all of the competition. Aniplex, Funimation, Crunchyroll, Kadokawa, all under the Sony umbrella.

[–] Dagnet@lemmy.world 47 points 4 weeks ago

And still can't offer the full catalog in my country

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[–] xenomor@lemmy.world 133 points 4 weeks ago (1 children)
[–] Prove_your_argument@piefed.social 58 points 4 weeks ago (10 children)

I'm doing my part!

My renewal was literally tomorrow too. As these streaming services get worse, I keep on cancelling. Been two years for Prime (literally smashed cancel the day ads were announced) and all i've got left at this point is netflix and spotify.

Netflix pricing almost has me there.

[–] BlameTheAntifa@lemmy.world 105 points 4 weeks ago (9 children)

All the streaming services are unethical now, both in pricing and operation. Netflix is maybe the least bad, but I can’t justify the cost for that, either.

Stremio + Torrentio is the way to go.

What happens next is like what happened in the 2000s. People will turn to piracy as legitimate content is no longer feasible, affordable, or ethical. Then the corporate oligarchs will crack down violently to make examples of the people they’ve given no other choice or recourse.

It’s time to eat the rich.

[–] BlackAura@lemmy.world 22 points 3 weeks ago

Netflix charges me, a single guy, for 4 simultaneous streams if I want 4k. So I shared with my parents.

Then they had the audacity to stop people from password sharing or to charge even more if you want to share. I set up an automatic email forward so my parents get every sign in related email.

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[–] rizzothesmall@sh.itjust.works 87 points 4 weeks ago (2 children)

Oh, didn't realize this. Had a rolling sub which I never bothered to cancel as I very occasionally watch with mates, but have now cancelled it.

[–] peoplebeproblems@midwest.social 23 points 4 weeks ago

I cancelled it because I forgot I had it a few days ago. This is merely coincidence to me but nice coincidence.

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[–] WizardofFrobozz@lemmy.ca 62 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

When property is valued over people, piracy is protest. Pirating undermines a system that guards profit while neglecting humanity. Every download is a refusal to accept laws that protect wealth over well-being.

[–] midtsveen@lemmy.wtf 56 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (15 children)

The whole “calling out Israel for genocide means you’re antisemitic” line is so worn out and honestly just exhausting. Israel has spent like 4+ decades trying desperately to associate criticism of israel with antisemitism.

I’ve been boycotting Crunchyroll for years, and I’m not stopping anytime soon.

"Piracy is a human right, collective ownership of the seas, comrades!" — Erik L. Midtsveen

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[–] desmosthenes@lemmy.world 56 points 4 weeks ago (5 children)
[–] jj4211@lemmy.world 39 points 4 weeks ago (3 children)

Kind of miss how much effort went into fan subs, with notes explaining things that didn't exactly translate without context...

[–] Schal330@lemmy.world 24 points 4 weeks ago (3 children)

Not just the notes, but I feel like they put more effort into making sure the text doesn't blend with what is on screen. Instances on Netflix of some shows where there will be white text with a white background, and the text has no drop shadow or black border.

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[–] gandalf_der_12te@discuss.tchncs.de 53 points 3 weeks ago (6 children)

I would very much like a streaming service that makes it transparent what it actually spends its income on.

Like - a streaming service where i pay $10/month and 90% of that goes to the studios/artists that actually produce the anime? I would take that.

But right now i'm worried that i pay $10/month and 90% of that goes to the shareholders of the streaming provider as "profit" while the studio gets almost nothing.

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[–] JoMiran@lemmy.ml 51 points 4 weeks ago
[–] surph_ninja@lemmy.world 44 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

And the Spotify ceo just stepped down so he could focus on weapons systems for Israel. The people running all of our media services are Nazis.

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[–] BilSabab@lemmy.world 37 points 3 weeks ago (13 children)

why not just pirate shit without a noble cause for once? You know - the old fashioned way

[–] Kolanaki@pawb.social 23 points 3 weeks ago (5 children)

Impossible.

Piracy is always noble.

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[–] Baggie@lemmy.zip 35 points 3 weeks ago

Animelab died for this

[–] T00l_shed@lemmy.world 30 points 4 weeks ago (1 children)

Well shit. If this goes through I'll have to cancel

[–] themachinestops@lemmy.dbzer0.com 30 points 4 weeks ago* (last edited 4 weeks ago) (1 children)

https://xcancel.com/sugoilite/status/1973732830334292420?s=46&t=qypRlc3aYixql0uGFrdzNA

Many people noticed that the changes in the subs, they used to translate text in the background for example.

[–] T00l_shed@lemmy.world 31 points 4 weeks ago* (last edited 4 weeks ago)

Oh so it has gone through? Fuck. Time to cancel then

[–] pinheadednightmare@lemmy.world 29 points 4 weeks ago (1 children)

The pirate life is the only life for me.

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[–] a4ng3l@lemmy.world 28 points 4 weeks ago (12 children)

Ha fuck… that was my last personal sub… any alternative beside the high seas? I’m seasick…

[–] mic_check_one_two@lemmy.dbzer0.com 29 points 4 weeks ago (15 children)

Honestly, piracy is easier than it ever has been. You can automate torrents or usenet downloads with the *arr suite. There’s a bit of a learning curve to get it set up… But once it’s running, it’s basically just “add show to your watchlist” and ~15 minutes later it shows up on your media list with full metadata, subtitles, etc ready to go.

Plenty of people will suggest stremio, which is… Contentious. It works for streaming by downloading a torrent to cache. After you watch it, stremio automatically deletes the cache. So in day to day operation, it uses very little hard drive space and primarily relies on your internet speed and properly seeded torrents. But that latter part is the problem… Since it deletes the cache, it isn’t actually seeding anything in return. If everyone used stremio, nobody would actually be able to use it, because none of the torrents would be seeded. It’s a sort of mass prisoner’s dilemma.

Technically, you can set stremio to keep a rolling cache of {x} size, and it will hold onto the torrents until you start to download something new and it needs that space. But very few people will expect to hit a 1.0 ratio, even with a decently sized cache.

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[–] aeternum@lemmy.blahaj.zone 26 points 3 weeks ago

Enshittification, everyone. It comes to everything.

[–] RedFrank24@lemmy.world 24 points 3 weeks ago (7 children)

The problem here is that all these major anime providers are owned by Sony, so you're kinda fucked if you want to boycott them.

[–] TWeaK@lemmy.today 27 points 3 weeks ago

Did you read the article - or even the title? This story is about people turning to piracy, not turning to another official source.

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[–] Sam_Bass@lemmy.world 22 points 3 weeks ago

Greed kills

Funnily enough, i was considering just today whether i should re-open my old Crunchyroll account. But i guess i won't do it now after all. IIRC there's been a streak of bad press about crunchyroll; like, this today isn't the only issue.

[–] Eezyville@sh.itjust.works 18 points 4 weeks ago (3 children)

These mutherfuckers forgot where they came from! Time to remind them

[–] quant@leminal.space 24 points 4 weeks ago

Oh they do remember. They fondly remember those early years piggybacking on strangers goodwill before laughing all the way to the bank.

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[–] lightnegative@lemmy.world 17 points 3 weeks ago

Ahh good ol' Aegisub. I have great memories of subtitling anime in my late teens before I got a girlfriend and the fansub scene died when Crunchyroll took over.

I was also one of the people helping test Aegisub on Linux (2009-ish), I wasn't a programmer at the time but I remember a dude called 'verm' in the IRC channel who did a bunch of work to make Aegisub stable on Linux. He taught me the difference between little endian and big endian, I guess he was bored that day

[–] MithranArkanere@lemmy.world 17 points 3 weeks ago

Corporations can't stand it a logarithmic graph. They need freaking geometric progressions, and then they do stuff that gets them an anti-logarithmic graph.

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