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[–] RememberTheApollo_@lemmy.world 3 points 20 minutes ago

The troll farms are disastrous to this country.

[–] uriel238@lemmy.blahaj.zone 33 points 5 hours ago (3 children)

The phrase “I voted for this” has become a common thing for far-right supporters of Trump to say when something particularly brutal has happened to their political opponents.

I'll tell you what's at the bottom of it, If you can convince the lowest white man he's better than the best colored man, he won't notice you're picking his pocket. Hell, give him somebody to look down on, and he'll empty his pockets for you. -- Lyndon B. Johnson, attributed by Bill Moyers

[–] Itdidnttrickledown@lemmy.world 2 points 24 minutes ago

That last part is still accurate He had it right.

I remember as a kid growing up in a extended family just emerging from the worst kind of american poor. My fathers generation was the first to have decent living conditions but still faced hunger as children. They all could remember when they got electricity and running water. The older generation of aunts and uncles would often say things like 'We may be poor but at least were not N******s". That hasn't changed a lot in some circular family tree's.

[–] vacuumflower@lemmy.sdf.org 4 points 2 hours ago* (last edited 2 hours ago)

I've met racists who love this quote, they just think that "convince the lowest white man he’s better than the best colored man" is equivalent to "convince a colored man he’s as good as a white man" here. They really do.

Also there are plenty of people who don't consider themselves racist, yet think their (American, British, whatever) color hierarchy exists outside of English-speaking countries and people there have to take it into account.

The kind that "is not racist", but if someone is racist, it's only the way that they are on top. They can't conceive that a Vietnamese or a Chinese racist may have a racial hierarchy where they are near chimps. When facing evidence of such being possible, they lose their mind and behave, honestly, quite racist.

[–] LustyArgonianMana@lemmy.world 3 points 4 hours ago

5th generation warfare. It's bots saying that (aka human slaves in large slave networks)

[–] verdi@feddit.org 12 points 5 hours ago

Confederate psy ops. The civil war is back, you just don't know it yet.

[–] DeathByBigSad@sh.itjust.works 8 points 5 hours ago

WELCOME TO THE WORRRLD OF TOMOORRROW!

Where truth doesn't matter anymore.

[–] 6stringringer@lemmy.zip 10 points 6 hours ago

Some dumbass sumbitch eating this up. Unfortunately it’s like 50x that. So many dumb motherfuckers, not enough natural disasters to help the rest of us along.

[–] Objection@lemmy.ml 58 points 9 hours ago

What's wild about this is that people predicted AI would be used for nefarious purposes, but generally in the form of like, showing your opponents doing crimes. But here it's being used to show their own side doing crimes while the other side is only made to look "cringy" or more like a stereotype.

It really speaks to the utter depravity of the US right that, given a machine that can generate any video of anything they could imagine, this is what they do. These people are utterly incompatible with any kind of free or even functional society, and I really don't know what could ever be done fix them or their culture.

[–] Tempus_Fugit@midwest.social 40 points 10 hours ago (1 children)

The smartest move I ever made was dropping all mainstream social media. I don't get any of this BS. Meta, Twitter, and Reddit are a plague on society and I'll have no part in it.

[–] Scolding7300@lemmy.world 8 points 6 hours ago (2 children)

What would prevent Lemmy from becoming another Reddit if it gains the same user count? Not promoting specific users only because they have a lot of Karma?

[–] Wrufieotnak@feddit.org 11 points 5 hours ago* (last edited 5 hours ago)

Nothing prevents it totally. It could 100% be just as bad as Facebook. But only those servers owned by those propaganda pushers. It is harder to take over the whole and push your agenda to all users, when they can simply block your instance and let you stew in your hate.

Best example for that: the tankies, which are mostly ignored or ridiculed outside their own safe spaces.

And while I do think there will always be nationalistic fuckwards, I think the big number now and in the past are only possible due to massive propaganda. If that is not possible, people steer more to "normal" stuff. Because most people are not majorally negatively affected by the status quo.

[–] PalmTreeIsBestTree@lemmy.world 4 points 6 hours ago

It’s not moderated the same way as Reddit

[–] jjjalljs@ttrpg.network 62 points 12 hours ago

If right wing people were smart they wouldn't be right wing. Of course they're going to believe and share AI slop video. They're emotional driven fools.

[–] renegadespork@lemmy.jelliefrontier.net 255 points 15 hours ago* (last edited 14 hours ago) (6 children)

This is not slop, this is political ~~misinformation~~ disinformation. Call it what it is.

Slop is annoying, but it's just AI generated spam. This is much more purposeful and insidious. The tools you used to make it are irrelevant.

[–] sp3ctr4l@lemmy.dbzer0.com 49 points 13 hours ago (1 children)

As much as I hate to use this term because of the most prominent person associated with it:

This literally is an infowar, this is an actual psyop.

Targetted and fairly convincing mis and disinformation deployed at exactly the moment it would generate the most chaos and distrust in your own ability to evaluate reality?

Yeah. Yeah.

Thats a psyop, that is what an actual psyop is.

[–] Cethin@lemmy.zip 1 points 4 hours ago

If they can take something like "woke" and use it to mean something bad, we can take infowars and use it for something good (and correct/accurate). Make that usage of the word the default when people hear it, not the other thing.

[–] rowrowrowyourboat@sh.itjust.works 81 points 15 hours ago (1 children)

Disinformation. Misinformation is when it's unintentional.

Right, that's more accurate.

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[–] samus12345@sh.itjust.works 44 points 12 hours ago (2 children)

I never have to wonder what the Nazis in Germany would have done with modern technology. I wish I didn't know.

[–] RandomlyGeneratedName@lemmy.world 8 points 8 hours ago* (last edited 8 hours ago) (1 children)

People have always been easy to manipulate. Especially in the type of social and ideological isolation the internet age has brought about. That’s why most city people are less right wing. Hard to villainize groups of people when you interact with them daily. Also hard to isolate into ideological containers when you interact with varied points of view contrary to your bubble.

[–] LainTrain@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 3 hours ago (1 children)

I see people daily due to living in a city and it only makes me hate them more.

[–] TronBronson@lemmy.world 2 points 51 minutes ago

But equally of course!

[–] masterofn001@lemmy.ca 4 points 9 hours ago

Human psychology is the same no matter the tech.

It just makes it easier.

And deadlier.

[–] Empricorn@feddit.nl 105 points 14 hours ago (2 children)

Republicans want to hate so badly, they'll literally create fiction to manifest it and be the victims...

[–] Tollana1234567@lemmy.today 1 points 5 hours ago

plus thats why they fall for scams very easily.

[–] Eldritch@piefed.world 51 points 14 hours ago (1 children)

Always have. Most of them have never met the people they've been taught to hate. Or believe for some reason that the few they know are some sort of exception. The token "good ones".

[–] grrgyle@slrpnk.net 22 points 14 hours ago (1 children)

Right they hate these straw people. I mean, I;m not going to say my own cognitive projection of "conservative" is 100% accurate, but at least my nightmare scenarios are about actual bad things happening, and not like conservative nightmares of genetically inferior people getting to enjoy the gifts of civilization.

[–] Eldritch@piefed.world 20 points 14 hours ago

The difference between us and them is that we don't want to do things to hurt them. Far from it. We honestly want to do things to help them. When we do hate them, it's not for who they are, but who they choose to be. And that makes all the difference.

[–] dylanmorgan@slrpnk.net 23 points 12 hours ago (1 children)

Even if the images were real, I see a woman using her first amendment right to speech and assembly being assaulted by someone who has sworn to uphold the constitution.

That’s the point. The right gets off on their enemies suffering. It’s insane considering the type of freedom trampling they claimed of the left wanted for decades is now celebrated when it’s actually happening.

[–] Formfiller@lemmy.world 17 points 12 hours ago (1 children)

This is actually pretty scary because they can just put their enemies in the videos to justify arresting people they don’t like

[–] unphazed@lemmy.world 6 points 9 hours ago (2 children)

Not much different than grabbing the neighbors and telling them to say a few statements as witnesses, false or true. A new spin on an old game.

[–] shalafi@lemmy.world 3 points 8 hours ago

A new spin with far more reach.

[–] Formfiller@lemmy.world 3 points 9 hours ago

True I mean without due process nothing will matter

[–] Wilco@lemmy.zip 27 points 14 hours ago

Its not fake if MAGA believes it ... that puts it into psyops territory.

Not real, but not exactly "fake".

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