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[–] e8d79@discuss.tchncs.de 69 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (2 children)

If anyone cares, GrapheneOS lets you override carrier settings for VoLTE. No workarounds needed.

[–] socialsecurity@piefed.social 10 points 1 day ago (2 children)

What's the benefit of volte?

Esp forcing it?

[–] Object@sh.itjust.works 3 points 21 hours ago

In some countries you need it to make a phone call.

[–] Blaster_M@lemmy.world 12 points 1 day ago (4 children)

VoLTE technically works over any internet connection. VoLTE is VoIP

[–] hanrahan@slrpnk.net 2 points 13 hours ago

No, that's why there is also VoWiFi. It is VoIP but not over ANY internet connection, only LTE.

[–] elmicha@feddit.org 1 points 22 hours ago

Technically it is Voice over LTE, so it cannot be used over any internet connection (e.g. over LAN, WIFI or GRPS).

[–] cyberpunk007@lemmy.ca 5 points 1 day ago (1 children)

How does it differ from wifi calling?

[–] IllNess@infosec.pub 14 points 1 day ago

WiFi calling and VoLTE are both VoIP. The only difference is the network protocol.

[–] FunctionallyLiterate@lemmy.ca 4 points 1 day ago (1 children)

The article implies simply rooting will do - something I haven't done in quite a while, but last I knew didn't involve wiping your existing setup.

[–] kenopsik@piefed.social 6 points 1 day ago (3 children)

Enabling root has always required a device wipe. It's unfortunate if you want to do it well after receiving your device and using it for months with the stock software.

It definitely didn't always require a wipe - I think it might be storage encryption by default that was introduced, that made it a requirement, where modifying/replacing system/bootloader components means it can't decrypt the data anymore.

[–] FunctionallyLiterate@lemmy.ca 7 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

Not in my experience, but again that was quite some time ago - I think it was Android 6 the last time I did it.

ETA: although now that I think about it, it was technically done in an "unsafe" manner by exploiting vulnerabilities. For the more safety-concerned, maybe a wipe was preferred.

[–] Shadow@lemmy.ca 10 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (2 children)

Typically unlocking the bootloader requires a full wipe. It's a security method intended to keep an attacker from compromising your OS to access your data if the phone is stolen.

I've never rooted a phone without requiring a wipe, but I've owned mostly Samsung

[–] Anivia@feddit.org 2 points 22 hours ago* (last edited 22 hours ago)

Even old Samsung phones would let you root and flash custom roms without wiping, the bootloader was open from the factory and you could just override your recovery and system partition with Odin. That's how I did it with my Galaxy Gio during the Android 2.2 days

[–] Auli@lemmy.ca 3 points 1 day ago

I've owned pixels and Nexus and you could unlock without wipe. Locking required a wipe. Now both do not sure when it changed though.

[–] Auli@lemmy.ca 2 points 1 day ago (1 children)

No now it does. Before you could unlock your bootloader and not wipe. Locking it has always required a wipe. Now both do for some reason.

[–] frongt@lemmy.zip 1 points 16 hours ago

It's so that someone else can't unlock your bootloader and install malware. Like if you're entering a country and they say "please unlock your phone" and they take it, they could unlock and replace the bootloader without you being able to tell.

[–] AndrewZabar@lemmy.world 27 points 1 day ago (1 children)

And what is the problem with VoLTE anywhere? Just curious.

[–] higgsboson@piefed.social 9 points 1 day ago (1 children)

The carriers probably paywall it.

[–] AndrewZabar@lemmy.world 5 points 22 hours ago

Ah, right. Why let you use the tech that’s already built-in and designed for just that, when they can call it something else and charge you more for it?

Fucking savages.

[–] Toes@ani.social 35 points 1 day ago (1 children)

actively making their product worse. awesome

[–] ByteMe@lemmy.world 14 points 1 day ago

They’ve been doing it for quite a while

[–] artyom@piefed.social 14 points 1 day ago

Next they're going to disable support for VPNs other than their own.

[–] owenfromcanada@lemmy.ca 17 points 1 day ago (2 children)

I see Google is amply funding their fun-ruiner division.

[–] dan1101@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago (2 children)

They only made one small update to their "Don't be evil" motto.

[–] prettybunnys@sh.itjust.works 1 points 22 hours ago

A single comma changes it all

[–] lka1988@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 23 hours ago (1 children)

They haven't had that motto in quite some time now.

[–] eskimofry@lemmy.world 1 points 23 hours ago

thats the update the parent comment was referring

That's how the big bucks are made.

[–] mindbleach@sh.itjust.works 10 points 1 day ago (1 children)
[–] somerandomperson@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 points 1 day ago (1 children)

That's not enough. Annihilate ALL of big tech.

[–] mindbleach@sh.itjust.works 6 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

Oh it's definitely not just Google. Apple's been this fucked since 2007. But since this is the Android community, it's helpful to stay on-message.

[–] Toasted_Breakfast@lemmy.today 6 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Can someone explain it to me the privacy hobbyist? Why is this a concern? What exactly am I missing out on?

[–] Zorsith@lemmy.blahaj.zone 8 points 1 day ago (2 children)

IIRC, it was announced at some point that US cell towers were compromised for several years (Salt Typhoon?) and it can't be confirmed that state actors don't still functionally own the infrastructure. This matters because the US for some fucking reason won't let SMS die.

[–] GaryGhost@lemmy.world 1 points 12 hours ago

We always rely on old technology. The us won't invest money into anything until they have to. This goes for our government and the private sector

NSA compromised them all decades ago

Part of Salt Typhoon was abusing that access

[–] deafboy@lemmy.world 0 points 1 day ago

The dawn of the 4G will forever be remembered as the time our civilization forgot how to make phones that can make phone calls. I feel embarrassed every time I randomly think about VoLTE.