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Exclusive: Peter Thiel in talk on 'Antichrist' says he told Elon Musk not to give wealth to charity (www.reuters.com)

submitted 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) by AcidiclyBasicGlitch@sh.itjust.works to c/news@lemmy.world

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Thiel brought up Gates and Musk when discussing how an Antichrist figure could dominate in the short span of a lifetime.

After reading a 19th-century poem about how Jesus and Alexander the Great each died at 33, Thiel said in the present age the fastest means to power may be through wealth, noting that Gates became a billionaire at 31.

The world's richest, in his view, think too little about their identities as billionaires and what will become of their treasures after death.

That's how Thiel said he persuaded Musk. He said he looked up actuarial tables and found the probability of Musk's death in the coming year equated to giving $1.4 billion to Gates, who has long sparred with the Tesla CEO.

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[–] riskable@programming.dev 94 points 3 days ago (3 children)

Remember: "Left wing nonprofits" are groups that do things like:

Free healthcare and food for the poor
Free rides for medical treatment, work, etc
Free legal services
Various forms of poverty relief
Environmental protection
Immigrant and refugee support
Labor rights
Criminal justice reform

But what about "right wing nonprofits"?

"Faith" initiatives
Religious education (only Christianity in the US)
Tax policy "research"
Second Amendment advocacy / violence enablement for ~~white people~~ everyone.
Law enforcement "support"
Anti-abortion
Anti-vaccination
Religious education
Government restriction/constriction (aka "limited government")
Various forms of groups that collect money but only actually provide "thoughts and prayers"

[–] comrade_twisty@feddit.org 22 points 3 days ago

Thougts and prayers are really expensive though! There‘s a reason why all those megachurch pastors are multimillionaires and own private jets.

[–] RagingRobot@lemmy.world 5 points 2 days ago

How can I start one of these thoughts and prayer groups? I am very skilled at thinking and praying I should be getting paid for it

[–] LillyPip@lemmy.ca 55 points 3 days ago (2 children)

These lunatics actually believe these fairytales about antichrists, demons, angels, end times, etc, and are powerful enough to get us all killed over it.

It’s bad enough they’re not willing to help humanity, they’re actively against doing that because of their stupid bronze-age fantasies. They could do so much good if they lived in reality but no, they’d rather use the most powerful positions on earth and more resources than anyone has ever controlled to fuck us all in the name of cultish idiocy.

It’s infuriating.

[–] spiffy_mallard@infosec.pub 1 points 1 day ago

That's my bad I brought Hermes here.

[–] HellsBelle@sh.itjust.works 15 points 2 days ago

They have been creating their own reality and it doesn't include us. In their thinking if 7 billion of us die because of starvation and disease it means they have the whole world to themselves.

The plan has been made and they have the money and power to implement it.

[–] BlameTheAntifa@lemmy.world 19 points 2 days ago (1 children)

“Don’t give money to charity!”

What is it called when tell you people to do the exact opposite of all the things Christ commanded? If only there were a word or phrase for that.

[–] AcidiclyBasicGlitch@sh.itjust.works 9 points 2 days ago

Peter Thiel reading the Bible for the first time and learning about the Antichrist:

[–] AcidiclyBasicGlitch@sh.itjust.works 21 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (1 children)

"Do you think Trump is the Antichrist?" Thiel mused at one point. "I will give you a hearing. And we should consider that."

I honestly don't think Trump is the Antichrist. I'm starting to think Thiel might be, and I'm not entirely sure he doesn't believe this too.

Maybe this whole insane "Antichrist" thing is just the ultimate party of projection/look at my other hand magic show that could easily end with all of Thiel's followers going out drinking cyanide laced Kool-aid in Thieltown or lacing up their Nikes to catch a ride on a comet.

The world's richest, in his view, think too little about their identities as billionaires and what will become of their treasures after death.

Holy shit, this is the most absurd unintentionally (?) funny take I've seen since that guy put wheels on that giant cross he brought out to dazzle the crowd at Charlie Kirk's funeral.

Are they just trolling the people they're trying to swindle or are they actually this oblivious? They're either really clever con men who feel ballsy enough to push the boundaries of reality to the point it could easily backfire if their marks wise up, or they're so shallow and oblivious it's kind of a miracle they've survived this long in the social darwinist world they're so desperate to create. They really should be thanking God bc their own continued existence defies logic.

I honestly can't tell. Maybe they don't even know anymore either.

[–] aviationeast@lemmy.world 8 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Both are antiChrists. And either could be the AntiChrist.

[–] AcidiclyBasicGlitch@sh.itjust.works 15 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (1 children)

Thiel seems to have way too much control over people like Trump, Musk, and Vance for me to believe they're much more than just flying monkeys.

They might be high ranking flying monkeys, but at the end of the day it's so obvious how he's in complete control and they don't even seem to realize it.

Especially with Musk. I do not trust Elon Musk. Never have and never will. But I can't help but feel some form of pity for him.

There's a know your enemy episode about him where they dive into his childhood and holy shit that dude has got to have some serious cptsd.

He went from being abused and controlled by his own God awful father, to being abused and controlled by Peter Thiel.

From the little I know about their relationship, I do know that so far Peter Thiel has:

•Staged a coup to successfully oust Musk from PayPal

•Set him up as the public face of DOGE to carry out all the plans he had been making since he became involved in Trump's first administration. And therefore take all the public blame.

•Got him ousted from the White House as soon as Michael Kratsios was sworn in.

•Made jokes about "saving" Elon Musk from going to therapy in his first Antichrist talk

•Now he's trying to control where Elon Musk spends his money even after he's dead by using passive aggressive manipulation tactics

Elon Musk has an abusive boyfriend, and he doesn't even realize it.

[–] IronBird@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago

worlds smallest violin is playing right now

[–] Godort@lemmy.ca 14 points 2 days ago (1 children)

The world's richest, in his view, think too little about their identities as billionaires and what will become of their treasures after death.

Historically, this is the only thing rich people thought about. Usually they would commission some huge public space like a library or a museum or park or something, and that would carry their name long after they died. I wouldn't mind seeing more of that rather than just hearing about how unfathomably rich they are online.

[–] AcidiclyBasicGlitch@sh.itjust.works 10 points 2 days ago (1 children)

We're moving away from all that leave a mark of your legacy and establish how you helped make humanity a little better, and back towards ancient mysticism.

Perhaps leave behind a private pyramid or elaborate sarcophagus? The help will thank you for burying them alive, and providing them with the opportunity to accompany you and continue serving you in the next life.

[–] IronBird@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago

my vanity project was going to be digging up as much stone as I could and building a literal mountain in the middle-of-nowhere midwest, just for shits and giggles.

just keep stacking blocks of stones until their own weight collapses in themselves, then tada midwest had a mountain

[–] Remember_the_tooth@lemmy.world 6 points 3 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

A human being could have said that without drooling.

Furthermore, let's prevent the ascension of an antichrist by [checks notes] using a perverse interpretation of theology to oppose charity and concentrate power? Sure, that makes sense. Hey, while we're at it, let's mitigate climate change by displacing wind, solar, hydro and nuclear with fossil fuels.

Edit: Grammar

[–] MyOpinion@lemmy.today 5 points 3 days ago

Pieces of human shit seem to spend a lot of time together.