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[–] Silverseren@kbin.social 44 points 2 years ago (1 children)

You can drop a bomb in the middle of a crowd of people and still claim to not have been targeting the people, they were just there. Doesn't really change the evilness of the action one way or the other.

[–] PugJesus@kbin.social 16 points 2 years ago

"They put on a blindfold and fired into a crowd with a machine gun. Clearly, as they weren't specifically targeting the civilians in the crowd, it's all okay!" - State Department desperately trying to come up with excuses for American policy towards Israel

[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 31 points 2 years ago

Got it, all those people in the refugee camps weren't civilians.

I guess anything to justify mass murder...

[–] Sanctus@lemmy.world 27 points 2 years ago

Bombing promised safe routes and locations is totally not targeting civilians. Just ignore the mountain of bodies. Even if Hamas was sneaking out of them, you promised they'd be safe. The civilians had no other choice.

[–] SheeEttin@lemmy.world 21 points 2 years ago

True, they're not targeting civilians. They're just killing everyone indiscriminately. Hell, they've even killed Israelis.

[–] Buddahriffic@lemmy.world 19 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Is there any evidence they are making any effort to avoid or reduce civilian deaths?

[–] iopq@lemmy.world 5 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Yes, the leaflets that warn civilians which areas will be bombed

[–] lolcatnip@reddthat.com 0 points 2 years ago

It's evidence that they're trying to create the appearance of avoiding civilian casualties.

[–] YtA4QCam2A9j7EfTgHrH@infosec.pub 17 points 2 years ago (2 children)

All those journalists dying in their beds at night aren’t targeted eh? Seems legit.

[–] AlwaysNowNeverNotMe@kbin.social 12 points 2 years ago (1 children)

More dead journos in 90 days than all of WW2.

Doesn't look like anything to me.

[–] Zoboomafoo@lemmy.world -4 points 2 years ago (1 children)

According to an unsourced claim on Al Jezeera, which is definitively a source we can trust for this conflict.

[–] AlwaysNowNeverNotMe@kbin.social 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)
[–] Zoboomafoo@lemmy.world -4 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

Someone that posts their sources, for one

Edit: lots of downvotes, but no sources for the claim?

[–] drislands@lemmy.world 13 points 2 years ago (1 children)

For sake of argument, suppose they earnestly believe this. I can think of a scenario consistent with that belief: that they also believe there are no civilians in the region, and that everyone present is Hamas.

[–] linearchaos@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Then all you need to tie a psychopathic bow on that is to say that anyone that doesn't openly denounce Hamas is part of Hamas.

Easy peasy lemon squeezy

[–] Doorbook@lemmy.world 0 points 2 years ago

Checkout because these kids didn't condem Hamas.

[–] Gymcap@lemmy.today 12 points 2 years ago
[–] Ab_intra@lemmy.world 9 points 2 years ago

And we're going to belive the fucking state department? Yeah right.

[–] BMatthew@lemmy.world 6 points 2 years ago

Maybe not deliberately, but is bombing buildings not caring if kids are in them or not better?? Not journalists killing is what I would like to see them comment on.

[–] NAXLAB@lemmy.world 5 points 2 years ago

You're going to have to take my word for it because I'm lazy and in bed, but Israel goes to serious effort to make no distinction between civilian, terrorist, protester or child.

They have rules of engagement so broad that basically nobody is safe. When soldiers gunned down children, they are either not charged or cleared by falsified evidence. Some of which admits that they killing was unjustified and offers alternative explanations to be given to the press.

[–] Franzia@lemmy.blahaj.zone 3 points 2 years ago

Their bombs arent deliberately targeting much of anything... Even though those bombs are extremely expensive and capable of centimeter precision targeting.

[–] ghostdoggtv@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago

I've seen video of civvies in Gaza trying to take cover away from open space and being shot right through the knee. It's been circulating since what I think in real time would be 2 nights ago. State department has been captured by the IDF.

[–] RTRedreovic@feddit.ch 2 points 2 years ago

The Yankee War Machine department expects me to believe this.

[–] Froyn@kbin.social -1 points 2 years ago

Hamas was just the bodies that fell along the way.

[–] iHUNTcriminals@lemm.ee -2 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

All good then, you may resume. /S

God is dead still, they keep killing him for some reason. Sides don't matter.

Might as well justify America's mass shootings too. War is war.