Discord is a disjointed mess that is being abused by many to fill a role it was never designed to fill.
No, I don't want to join your discord to use a half assed search to be able to dig my way through what you think is an FAQ about your game.
this post was submitted on 05 Dec 2023
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Yeah, it really bugs me that it's basically absorbed what used to be public forums and whatnot into its own proprietary bubble where search engines don't reach while not even being a good fit for that kind of thing to begin with
I like discord a lot for support groups for small projects where it's about 50-100 ish people interested in it. But when a project grows and the server grows with it definitely becomes a struggle for people to look back at whats already been discussed so people keep asking the same questions over and over.
And there is so much idle chatter to scroll through. I shouldn't have to scan through months of jokes and memes to get updated.
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And every gamer and his dog have their own, so communities are adhoc and lackluster. It does the opposite of what forums used to do.
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Seriously. I hate discord. Its fine for you and friends fucking about and gaming on a saturday night.
but its been turned into an alternative to webforums. Where you have to go to get support and answers. Outside of where a websearch can index and archive.
Discord will eventually lead to a massive, catastrophic loss of information that will be unindexed, unarchived, and unrecoverable.
Jup, it's terrible. Where information goes to die. I wish devs would not use it as much as they do.
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It's an overwhelming mess of everything. So many things going on at once - notifications, badges, mentions, boosts, stickers, voice chats, kitchen sink ....
I just can't force myself to use it. My brain is accustomed to a minimalist UX, not whatever that is.
AGS took their working forums for Lost Ark and other games, deprecated them and turned them to read only and switched entirely to Discord.
The tin foil hat side of me says it's so all the complaints stopped showing up in Search Engine results. Also no pesky archives or waybackmachine to properly inform customers.
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Bullshit. Its on a quest to monetize the platform, thats all its doing.
If it wanted to be a better communication platform it wouldnt be adding all this pointless superfluous shit that exists only for nickle and diming.
Yeah the app is bloated as shit
As long as they allow for free streaming and file sharing, they will need to monetize. That stuff gets real expensive real fast.
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idk how else to put it, but discord feels like an information black hole with adhd
Fuck Discord. It stole entire communities from us. It is the opposite of privacy. And, subjectively, their client applications are just a horrible mess.
Also it used to be fast, but got bloated and lost its greatest advantage. They abandoned every design choice that made them popular in the first place.
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The UI/UX is a convoluted mess. Whenever I say this elsewhere I get downvoted to oblivion and people tell me you just gotta learn it.
Well, yea, that's the problem. I shouldn't have to "learn" a UI, things should be apparent and obvious.
There's not even a useful intro the first time you launch it. Yea, it shows you what the buttons are for, but never explains the concept behind things. Guess you're supposed to intuit that stuff?
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It was a great messaging app, before all the extra bullshit was added to it. The focus was on doing one thing, and doing it right. Now they do 35 different things, and abandon them in favor of mtx for profiles
I miss the early days of Discord. Nowadays it's just a lot of advertising for their Nitro service.
Not even their marketing videos are fun anymore. Why can't they just bring Zencha back?
You usually know a company is slowly going to shit when they start to be serious and stop doing fun in their products and ads. Then you know lawyers and shareholders and people who think you can only do business with a straight face started to take over the company. Which is just sad.
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Walled-gardens are fundamentally bad for communication. Discord is not a solution, it’s a problem.
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"Better messaging app" my bubble ass
Keeps changing ui every month for no reason Keeps adding disgracting prolife fluff that looks like shit. (Neither can be turned off) Support is abbysmal. Linux client is garbage. (Screenshare anyone) Bloated mess. Hates mods and custom clients. Too big ( had a server of 3k people, know how many people I got to switch?90) Their team us a bunch of pedophile furry porn lovers.
Fuck. Them.
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Here's an idea to start making it better: ditch fucking electron. There are alternatives that won't need complete code rewrite or language change (tauri, neutralino). Better yet, actually go ahead with a full language change and pick Dart + Flutter, that shit is crossplat.
But we all know they won't, because fuck you, "ram is cheap". Good luck upgrading the ram on your phone.
It run fine on my 7 years old phone. Sure, native would be better, but electron mean they can make the website, the windows app and the android app all at once. So it's worth it. Everyone on Lemmy is a programmer, so you should know how hard it is to support multiple version of a service with as much active developpement as discord.
The point of Tauri and Neutralino is to do what Electron does without needing to bundle a whole, isolated chrome browser to make it pretend it is a native app
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Discord is an absolute piece of garbage, it's not a good messaging app, definitely not a good place to host a community (seriously, I don't understand why some communities saw Discord as an alternative after the Reddit API changes), and most importantly, it's spyware. The company doesn't have a business model and it was founded by a guy who is notorious for creating random shit that's not economically sustainable at all. I don't understand why anyone would use this shit. This video outlines everything that's wrong with Discord: https://youtube.com/watch?v=uvNkdAggUGU
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Is it becoming FOSS or supporting any meaningful level privacy?
Discord is spyware and all of my friends are the laziest most boring people for thinking they should spend their entire social lives on one app.
plus doesn't it just feel awful to use as software? the way lemmy looks and responds to clicks is night and day versus the le epic gamer kid dark mode awful buggy weird PC web view thing discord does where like, if you want to copy and paste you have to use their little tooltip menu which sucks instead of the system one. every time you launch it it forces you to wait 10 minutes for it to download every piddly little update which probably sucks and doesn't matter....
lemmy is buggy and has its flaws as well of course but it's just like...this is a good solid website. good bones. like the old days.
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I see a few claims of spyware in here. Not that I doubt you, but where can I find out more?
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Yeah, there is one way to make it better, but it won't happen until they're forced to change: force them to integrate with the matrix protocol
yes, I know that it's possible to use a bridge, and I do it, but it still requires a discord account, it would be great if discord rooms were just accessible with the matrix protocol
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(X) Doubt
I can not find anything in there. I can not favorite messages to find them again. It is a hole where everything your write is virtually there, but practically lost.
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The only thing I want is a good Discord update for Linux. Streaming with sound still doesn't work and Discord hogs more CPU resources than on Windows.
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If I wanted to get there I wouldn't start from here.
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