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[–] IsoKiero@sopuli.xyz 202 points 10 months ago (4 children)
[–] mhzawadi@lemmy.horwood.cloud 123 points 10 months ago (1 children)

can confirm, its always DNS. Even when it looks like a network issue, its DNS

[–] aarRJaay@lemmy.world 28 points 10 months ago (1 children)
[–] ramble81@lemmy.zip 29 points 10 months ago (3 children)

Oh man. One of my old companies, the Devs would always blame the network. Even after we spent a year upgrading and removing all SPOFs. They’d blame the network…..

“Your application is somehow producing 2 billion packets per second and your SQL queries are returning 5GB of data”…. “See! The network is too slow and it has problems”

[–] rumba@lemmy.zip 17 points 10 months ago

Dev: My app's getting a 400 hitting the server. Your firewall changes broke it.

Me: You're getting to the server, it's giving you back a malformed request error. Most likely it's a problem in your client.

Dev: it worked fine until you made that change in QA.

Me: Your server is in production.

After that, I just get too busy to look at it for a while.... They figure it out eventually.

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[–] ijhoo@lemmy.ml 40 points 10 months ago (2 children)
[–] NickwithaC@lemmy.world 76 points 10 months ago (6 children)

I always view the source of websites like this and this is one of the worst I've seen. 217 lines of code (including inline Javascript?!) and a Google tag for some reason, all to put the word YES in green on black.

[–] Cyber@feddit.uk 30 points 10 months ago

Agreed, could be static HTML and a GIF.

Thanks, I won't click that link.

[–] Xylight@lemdro.id 21 points 10 months ago (2 children)

this made me mad so i made a single, ultra minimal html page in 5 minutes that you can just paste in your url box

data:text/html;base64,PCFkb2N0eXBlaHRtbD48Ym9keSBzdHlsZT10ZXh0LWFsaWduOmNlbnRlcjtmb250LWZhbWlseTpzYW5zLXNlcmlmO2JhY2tncm91bmQ6IzAwMDtjb2xvcjojMmYyPjxoMT5JcyBpdCBETlM/PC9oMT48cCBzdHlsZT1mb250LXNpemU6MTJyZW0+WWVz

source code:

<!doctypehtml><body style=text-align:center;font-family:sans-serif;background:#000;color:#2f2><h1>Is it DNS?</h1><p style=font-size:12rem>Yes
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[–] ijhoo@lemmy.ml 12 points 10 months ago (2 children)

Did not think of doing that.

I guess i never expected anyone to have a fcking JavaScript on a simple page as that

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[–] Dubiousx99@lemmy.world 33 points 10 months ago

It’s always DNS

[–] magic_lobster_party@fedia.io 200 points 10 months ago (3 children)

It’s not DNS

There’s no way it’s DNS

It was DNS

[–] possiblylinux127@lemmy.zip 35 points 10 months ago (1 children)
[–] MelodiousFunk@slrpnk.net 27 points 10 months ago (1 children)

If I had a nickel for every time clearing the ARP tables fixed a problem, I'd have a shitload of nickels.

[–] possiblylinux127@lemmy.zip 18 points 10 months ago (1 children)

If clearing the ARP tables fixes the issue you have bigger problems

[–] MelodiousFunk@slrpnk.net 30 points 10 months ago (1 children)

These things happen when a skinflint company contracts out network setup for a decade, gets acquired by another skinflint company who axes the contractors and doesn't hire on-site network personnel, gradually builds out infra on top of the unsupported foundation, and then hires c suite buddies who want to bring in their own people to further muddy the waters.

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[–] GreenKnight23@lemmy.world 128 points 10 months ago (1 children)

oh sure, when they fuck up DNS it's a "race condition".

when I fuck up DNS it's a "fireable offense".

[–] joeldebruijn@lemmy.ml 80 points 10 months ago (1 children)
[–] Laser@feddit.org 35 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (1 children)

Luckily, it's not the entire Internet, just the unfun part.

[–] amino@lemmy.blahaj.zone 11 points 10 months ago (8 children)

Signal is definitely part of the fun internet, they just decided to rely on AWS due to techbro culture I assume?

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[–] slothrop@lemmy.ca 69 points 10 months ago

I DNS see that coming.

[–] regedit@lemmy.zip 48 points 10 months ago (2 children)

Unbelievable, racism even exists in networking!

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[–] WhatsHerBucket@lemmy.world 47 points 10 months ago (1 children)

It was the best race anyone has ever seen 🫲🍊🫱

[–] BrianTheeBiscuiteer@lemmy.world 10 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (1 children)

Let's be honest, not all races are equal 🫲🍊🫱

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[–] sommerset@thelemmy.club 46 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (2 children)
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[–] pokexpert30@jlai.lu 37 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Just one more layer bro, just one more automated planning system bro and this time it will be entirely faultless please bro one more layer

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[–] ReedReads@lemmy.zip 33 points 10 months ago

Ironically, my pihole is blocking that link. So here’s a clean one: https://www.theregister.com/2025/10/23/amazon_outage_postmortem/

[–] TommySoda@lemmy.world 33 points 10 months ago (2 children)

This is purely anecdotal, but I have been running into a lot of DNS issues over the past couple months where I work. 3 of the computers and even one of the laptops for remote work were having DNS issues that needed to be fixed. One even needed Windows reinstalled after fixing the DNS issue (Which was probably unrelated, but worth mentioning)

I'm honestly starting to think that the internet in general might be imploding. Not sure why, but replacing so many developers and programmers with AI might be responsible. Who knows, but it's definitely very strange.

[–] possiblylinux127@lemmy.zip 58 points 10 months ago (2 children)

The biggest issue is how centralized the internet has become. It went from a bunch of local servers to a handful of cloud providers.

We need to spread things out again

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[–] ubergeek@lemmy.today 27 points 10 months ago (6 children)

A huge problem are developers who lack a fundamental understanding of how the internet even works. I've had to explain how short, unqualified names resolve vs how fqdns resolve. Or why even you may not be able to reach another node in your proverbial cluster, because they are on different subnets. Or, why using GUIDs as hostnames is a generally bad idea, and will cause things to fail in unpredictable ways, especially with deeply nested subdomains.

[–] GreenKnight23@lemmy.world 13 points 10 months ago (1 children)

I have worked with too many devs that didn't even know what the 7 layers/OSI are or why they exist.

they didn't know what a network port was used for and why it's important to not expose 3306 to the internet.

they couldn't understand that fragmentation of a message bus occurs when you don't dedupe the contents.

you know, morons.

[–] metaStatic@kbin.earth 14 points 10 months ago

Ah, the common clay of the new Web

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[–] HeartyOfGlass@piefed.social 24 points 10 months ago

Racist DNS!

[–] Cyber@feddit.uk 14 points 10 months ago (1 children)

I'm glad these things happen... it keeps everyone aware that cloud is fragile and Plan B should be considered for mission critical tasks.

I'm also hoping that it will improve cloud resiliency because a complete / partial restart of cloud systems needs a whole different approach than maintaining a running system.

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[–] Flax_vert@feddit.uk 11 points 10 months ago (9 children)

Makes sense. DNS is quite a single point of failure

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