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[–] EyIchFragDochNur@feddit.de 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Could you give a summary? I stopped using youtube.

[–] simple@lemm.ee 2 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

The video pretty much describes why Fandom is so bad and why many games are moving their wikis to alternative services, and why you should stop using it in general. Some examples include:

  • Ads everywhere, including autoplaying video ads that play another ad when they're done. There are also ads sneakily inserted in the middle of articles that are related to the wiki, like a Gamespot review (Gamespot is owned by Fandom)

  • A sidebar you can't remove that promotes their content

  • Fandom hijacked the community's Mcdonald's wiki to turn it into a giant advertisement

  • Accounts that are 4 days old can bypass restrictions and easily vandalize pages

  • Fandom sometimes introduces things nobody wants, such as AI generated answers that are usually wrong, take up the top half of the page, and with no way for wiki admins to remove it. They removed it after a lot of backlash but still...

  • When people fork their wikis to other sites, fandom refuses to let admins delete their old wikis. This makes new wikis difficult to start because Fandom usually ends up as the top result on search engines, even if they're old abandoned wikis.

[–] GrammatonCleric@lemmy.world 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Fandom seems like my experience on Fextralife

[–] buddhabound@lemmy.world 1 points 2 years ago

And then you learn about Fextra's embedded twitch player that artificially inflates their twitch view count and pushes out smaller content creators who are actually trying to engage with a game's audience.

[–] g6d3np81@kbin.social 0 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Regarding SEO, What's stopping maintainers from vandalizing their own fandom page?

It would not be difficult to make a bot to update fandom page with a convincing but slightly wrong info, after a few hundred iterations, it's all useless. Go look at what google recommend and do complete opposite. I'm convinced this will bomb ranking and put whatever wiki they migrated to at the top.

[–] djsoren19@yiffit.net -1 points 2 years ago

The disinformation doesn't really matter. The fandom wiki's naturally become incorrect over time, since they're typically no longer maintained after a community switches, so vandalizing it after the fact won't really change anything. For Path of Exile, it took the developers linking to the new wiki, and about two years of the community sending new players to the correct wiki, before it even started to show up in searches. Even then, I believe the fandom wiki still shows up first if you look at some of the very old entries.

[–] M500@lemmy.ml 0 points 2 years ago (1 children)

I loath this site. It’s rarely loads well and the images never load for me. And it’s always so slow. It’s probably because I have an adblocker.

[–] at_an_angle@lemmy.one 0 points 2 years ago (1 children)

I've found the best way to browse Fandom(if necessary) is to use a VPN set to Nordic countries. Ads are very generic and in a language I can't read. So they are very easy to spot.

[–] Mkengine@feddit.de 0 points 2 years ago (1 children)
[–] 10EXP@sh.itjust.works 1 points 2 years ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Better yet: Try the Indie Wiki Buddy extension. It serves 2 purposes:

  1. It redirects you from fandom wikis to the new official wikis, to which the community has now moved from the fandom one. Also filters out fandom results from search engines only if an independent, more up-to-date alternative exists.
  2. If something is still hosted on fandom with no indie wiki, redirects it to a BreezeWiki instance.

~~I use it in combination with wiki.gg redirect, which redirects to newer wikis which aren’t independent, but moved to wiki.gg from fandom.~~

Update: IndieWikiBuddy can now redirect to Wiki.gg wikis too, no need for wiki.gg redirect.