Do you think he's lying about having the tattoo already covered with different tattoos?
TBH I don't really care that much for the same reason I didn't care about 1970s Joe Biden fighting desegregation: people can change.
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Do you think he's lying about having the tattoo already covered with different tattoos?
TBH I don't really care that much for the same reason I didn't care about 1970s Joe Biden fighting desegregation: people can change.
Nothing in this article suggests any new evidence. It's literally a "trust me bro" article. wtf?
Say what you will about Hasan, I think his take on the tattoo is spot on. Regardless of whether or not he has or had Nazi sympathies, it shows a just complete incompetence in how the campaign was run and he's just a liability to progressive movements.
If he isn't going to take his campaign itself seriously. How you present yourself and are perceived in public matters and affects your ability to develop coalitions to push through legislation, especially on a national scale as a senator.
If I were a Maine voter, I would hold my nose and vote for him, but the next election cycle, he's got to go unless he really shows some maturity in how he runs a national campaign within the first year. Otherwise, start looking for and pushing a different candidate for the next election cycle.
I’m getting Fetterman from him
Say what you will about Hasan
According to his own words, he is already supporting Janet Mills, who is seemingly antithetical to his expressed political ideology and values i.e. her being loosely pro-genocide and a neoliberal.
Do you have a source for that? Only clip I could find had him also endorsing Susan Collins and was clearly satirical. The stream I watched had him not really sure how to react to it for a while. I think he assumed the skull was more well known than it actually was, like if he had an actual swastika on his chest.
As Soulg said, the end of the video he did on Graham on his main YouTube channel is my source. If I recall correctly, he says he supports Janet Mills, states that she has a clear track record, and says that he's apart of "Mill's Mafia". It didn't feel satirical, but he definitely didn't have his heart behind it either seemingly.
It just feels hypocritical of him to already be supporting somebody so in conflict with him. Somebody who is as old as she is, somebody who is pretty unpopular, somebody who represents the establishment - and is also backed by them.
I don't know how he squares the Gaza stance but he definitely has said he is supporting mills. If you watch his video about graham covering the tattoo he says it a couple times near the end.
You should vote based on behaviors. Not a skull tattoo that is only subjectively associated with Nazis.
He also clarified the situation.
What more do you want from him?
You want to vote for the person the billionaires and trump and Israel are pushing for instead. ?
Because of a skull tattoo that does not look like any Nazi icons or symbols. But that some say could be related?
Vote based on policy and behavior of candidate. Not on what others say about what type of person they think he is when none even know him.
Okay, what are his behaviors?
I know, let's judge him on getting a god damned SS skull tattooed on his chest 20 years ago? No? Okay.
Let's judge him based on having confirmed he knows the heritage of said tattoo 5 years ago and STILL not getting it removed? No?
Can we judge him based on actively lying to the people he is trying to convince to vote for him about said tattoo? With the dumbest fucking excuse ever of him being a terminally online military history buff who was completely unaware of the fucking totenkopf? No? Damn, you got some real high standards.
I know! We can judge him based on his long history of homophobic slurs and really shitty views on sexual assault? No? Well, this IS America, women and gays don't matter. Moving on.
OOH OOOH! Can we judge him on having fucking joined Blackwater as a PMC? Still no? Damn.
Okay, fine. Let's judge him based on his long history of community service and political activism. ERROR: FILE NOT FOUND.
Okay, fine. We'll judge him based on a few things he said over the past couple months and a long history of internet shitposting. Platner For President!!!!
What more do you want from him?
Honestly? To acknowledge he lied to his potential constituents and the American people. And to probably step down on this cycle because his very existence undermines every single "trump et al are fucking nazis" campaign.
I would also genuinely love for him to talk about how he was peer pressured into it in the military and that he was too ashamed to stand up. And then I want him to spend the next seven-ish years actually showing he has changed. Get those community service hours. Engage in political activism. Show us he is worth something.
Wait, why did I say seven years? Isn't a senate term six?
You want to vote for the person the billionaires and trump and Israel are pushing for instead. ?
No. I want people to fucking realize it is over a year until the actual election and there is still PLENTY of time to continue this primary. And... maybe they can consider that Smith-Rodriguez was ALSO a veteran who ALSO had a demsoc platform
Hopefully you aren’t a Maine voter because you’re falling for obvious misdirection and smear tactics. Anything to keep him from talking about healthcare for all or taxes on billionaires.
As an actual Maine voter, I’ll be happy to vote for him in the primary and hopefully the general.
I suggest you go watch when a reporter asked Bernie Sanders about the tattoo and do some reflection about where you get your media and what your priorities are.
Priorities (not ranked) 1. Policy position on unions and living wages, civil rights, all the basics 2. Pac and aipac money. 3. Anti Trump's policies. 3. Integrity based on history of behaviors and current behavior. Especially including sexual misconduct.
Things not a priority.
Keep your priorities straight.
forget the rape and racist comments and tattoos which he keeps saying he did all these things when he was drunk;
isn't there any other canidate who didn't keep participating in war crimes for 13 years and still does not see anything wrong with it? giving him the best benifit of doubts, the guy is an emotionless conciousless psycopath. he will lie to tell you whatever you want to hear. people with a resume like his killed themselves from the guilt of profiting and participaring in shamed invasions and from ptsds of seeing civilians die while he is proud of it.
Leftists on Lemmy falling for establishment Democrat smear campaigns is not something I had on my 2025 bingo card
Smear campaigns are when you document someone having a Nazi tatoo for 20 years and never questioning it.
They aren't "falling" for anything. They are accelerationists actively trying to help the fascists destroy America.
Hegseth has shitty tattoos but we talk about him leaking chats, shit policy, chastising the troops, being a sloppy drunk. Lots of REAL reasons to dislike Hegseth.
But this guy... people just bring up his tattoos?
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No, people very much do point out hegseth is a nazi. It is just the rationale behind his evil acts.
In the case of platner? We very much do point out his history of homophobic comments (at least as recent as 2020) and that he is a fucking Blackwater merc. It is just that he isn't in power to enact a nazi ideology so we instead focus on "Yo dog, muhfugger is a nazi and we have seen how poorly that ends"
Bottom line is that I'm skeptical of this guy, but this is my take on his whole deal.
He reminds me of a lot of young, infantry people I've met in my time: young and full of stupid decisions. I genuinely believe that he got a Totenkopf without realizing what it was. That sounds like something an idiot, young infantryman would do. However, I don't for a second believe that he didn't know what it was until recently. That's a bald faced lie for someone who claims to be a student of history. My read of it is that he realized what he had on himself and he was too ashamed to actually do something about it and instead tried to just keep it a secret. That is, he tried to keep it a secret until he was outed for it. If this is the case, he should have just come clean about it when it came out and just said this, but he didn't.
As for everything else, I'll extend him some grace on some (except one) post. Being a trolly edgelord is whatever. Infantry, especially at the time, was very sheltered from the military sexual assault issues, and war is really hard on someone. It can send you to really dark places, especially if that's all you've known. So, apologizing for saying stupid, offensive things and demonstrating change is fine. The one thing I am having a hard time reconciling is the "black people don't tip" post. He's actually defending that, which...is a choice. If he disavowed it saying that it's something he observed but is obviously untrue, then fine, but he didn't.
I don't think he's a closet racist or a closet nazi. I think he might just be kind of dumb. If he's elected, at least he won't furrow his brow and vote with Trump on everything.
What does it matter after he is dumb. Don't vote for dumb people as leaders. I have posed the question before what is worse dumb or evil and have posited that im kinda leaning toward dumb. I mean at least a highly intelligent person wanting the best for them and everyone else be damned may recognize how being a regular person in an advanced economy is better than being a king in the middle ages.