I genuinely tried Gnome and started to like it but a very minor update broke all of my QoL extensions and only 1/8th of them were updated. It's lacking so many features that it's just a bad DE all around : snapping windows in quarters anyone ? Why isn't it already an option ? GNOME devs need to touch grass and listen to the actual users.
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GNOME devs need to touch grass and listen to the actual users.
I totally agree. However, interacting with any gnome devs is like pulling teeth. They keep making bad decisions to be 'different' and make their jobs easier, then when those decisions turn out to be bad they have to walk them back but never admit fault.
Being able to move the dock is fine example of this.
It's like they want Apple's lack of customization but can't provide a competitive default (because they suck at their jobs.)
You know these are volunteers that work for free, right?
I don’t like the insinuation that because gnome devs are volunteers they are somehow beyond criticism
You can volunteer on a project and still do a bad job, or need corrective action, or maybe even a little feedback. That’s not a bad thing. Nobody can make the right decision 100% of the time, and you need an outside perspective to see that.
One thing where you should draw the line is when that criticism starts to become abusive, but that’s something nobody should have to put up with, not just volunteers.
Correct, but I'm seeing a lot of abusive criticism in this thread, where we bash the devs rather than the code. That's where I draw the line.
Also, when criticizing work, it should be kept constructive rather than just hurling generic statements and insults. A well formulated thought is more likely to change things than a toxic, meaningless rage-induced rant.
These are volunteers that work for free, right?
Some are working for free, sure. But mainly GNOME is developed by Red Hat and Canonical, afaict.
Florian Müllner is a Red Hat employee.
Yes, however most GNOME developers are not RedHat / Canonical employees.
Even those that do work for those companies should be treated with dignity. GNOME is free of charge, and no one is obligated to use GNOME.
Lol, how does this change the fact their work stinks? Maybe if they didn't suck at designing the hate would stop? Nah, guilt trip the users instead, that'll fix it. Free crap is still crap, and pointing it out isn't a sin. If the devs can't deal with that, maybe they should go home and cry about it instead of further shitting up the code.
Devs don't owe users anything? Guess what, users don't owe devs shit either. If they don't like criticism, tough tittys, cause shit code will be criticized, which is why Gnome is still considered a joke.
That wouldn't be the true gnome experience.
This is the best summary I could come up with:
It looks like GNOME 46 might finally see the dynamic triple buffering support merged for Mutter to enhance the performance particularly for systems with integrated graphics.
Ubuntu and Debian have been carrying the GNOME Mutter dynamic triple buffering patches for years that have been maintained by Canonical's Daniel van Vugt.
Van Vugt commented this morning in an Ubuntu desktop status update: "Completed a redesign for mutter 46 that should get us closer to merging much sooner than carrying on with unified buffer management...Triple buffering is now out of draft status and ready to merge."
He added this week in the merge request: "[KMS unify buffer management for all plane types] has been dropped.
FTR., I hope to get [Wayland direct scanout for cropped and scaled surfaces] into a mergable state soon and was worrying that would step on your toes here, but now it looks like it should be pretty compatible."
We'll see if after 3+ years of work if Mutter dynamic triple buffering is finally ready for upstream in GNOME 46.
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There is already a package for this in arch AUR you can install:
https://aur.archlinux.org/packages/mutter-dynamic-buffering
I used to install this (it replaces mutter) but didn't notice any difference in my system.
I think it makes a big difference on some systems though, since I saw other people absolutely love it.
There's a Fedora copr with the triple buffering patches and it did improve the perceived smoothness of Gnome's animations on my 8th gen Intel CPU.
It was especially noticeable if the system was limited in power because of running on battery.
Canonical have had it in Ubuntu for years, but it's taken them a while to get it to a point where it could be upstreamed. That's what this news is: that Canonical's patch is finally all clear to be merged.
Damn, they might pull me back from kde plasma.