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One of the most common I downvote comments is including things like "Edit: why all the downvotes?" in topics that aren't about the voting system (instinctually downvoted this topic, but un-downvoted), . But also just downvote things things are spammy, *phobic, defending genocides, etc.

So, what, people are only allowed to like your content? Can’t possibly be shit posts or anything like that, clearly it’s just all the downvoters who are wrong.

OR a downvote is as meaningful as an upvote, and it’s pretty childish to complain about them. (Especially considering that many instances don’t even count or display them)

Downvotes? What are those?

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"Do folks in here are really that needy of self-validation, even if it means seeking such from something completely insignificant like internet points?"

But... is that not exactly the description of somebody who complains about downvotes?? As said by others; they should be considered exactly as valid as upvotes. If you feel like they prohibit you from voicing an opinion, I personally feel like that is a you-problem. Ask yourself of the content you posted is crap, if you feel it is not, simply ignore the downvotes and move on, they are just pixels.

Edit: I checked your posts, most downvoted ones seem to be clickbaity or images that you posted to the linux community. This is not something that vibes with that type of community, I would have downvoted that too. The ones on your technical questions seem unjustified however. Posting a code snippet asking people to execute it... I think that crap should even have been deleted by mods.

Mostly I downvote people who post screenshots of headlines or tweets instead of posting a link to the source. IMHO we need better moderators to delete that crap, but I do my part.

You need to be much less fragile, or life is going to be hard. Really hard . I say this because you seem like a good guy.

I typically never downvote anyone. I'll up upvote a post if it's saying what I was already going to say.

I don't even check vote counts, not my own nor others. I'm just here to share opinions, others and mine.

I couldn't give a dime as to whether people up or downvote me.

I don't think it's a healthy system. And I agree, as Linux users we should support community and different opinions, not squash them. The disagreements can often lead to a better solution for all.

I expected this to be "another one of those" but actually from what my instance has about you, you were indeed correct. Gaming distros with exclusive features lmao.

IMO that's some of the gamer logic bleeding over in the Linux side, now that Linux gaming is taking off. They'll do anything including install dubious Linux distros barely hanging together with duct tape for a perceived extra 2 FPS. Download software exclusively distributed on Discord? Hell yeah. I'm sure at least one of them boots with mitigations=off and it's not clearly indicated that it does.

We're seeing the same thing on the Windows side with modified Windows ISOs like the whole AtlasOS, that rightfully made some security experts sound the alarm. Some did things like completely strip off the updates, antivirus and firewall. Unless your system is exclusively running Steam and firewalled off the network, this is a certified bad idea.

I'd probably trust Nobara because the guy clearly knows his shit, but some of them really are just some other guy's riced up Arch snapshot. They may give the impression everything just works at first but I've definitely seen examples of it falling apart. Even bigger distros like Pop_OS! had major snafus like the whole Steam uninstalls your DE thing, and Manjaro still fucks up something basic every now and then. I tried some of them in a VM and they didn't even install or boot correctly. Oh my fault that one only works for NVIDIA graphics cards not AMD, my bad.

It's not worth arguing, it's a user base with vastly different goals than I do, just let them have their Bedrock Linux completely blow up in multi package manager hell and soon enough they'll come running for a saner more reliable distro.

I just post what is true to me. Let people downvote. But yeah, lots of downvotes sometimes because some topics are just "we must all agree or else".

Large instances are like reddit now, yes.

Heavily depends on the community. I see lots of communities with few down-votes happening. But it's definitely a thing in -for example- the political/news ones.

Gonna guess it's just a carry over from Reddit, Even if it doesn't contribute anything to your account people will still do it because the option is there and it's a habit they built.

Honestly not fully sure how the points system worked on Reddit either.

Not isolated to this community either. I've been noticing it in a few others as well. Kinda bothersome as it snuffs out posts worth climbing to more visibility. Not sure if voting is still visible on some end, but maybe someone will look into it and figure something out eventually.

Good on you for taking one for all, lol.

Unfortunately, this is a problem that can't really be resolved. As long as there is a downvote button, it will always be viewed as a dislike button by some people (and I don't know if removing it is a good alternative for such a large social network). It's a problem that would eventually arrive here from Reddit as the community on the Fediverse grew.

There's really nothing we can do about it.

I don't ever go back and look at the votes.

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I downvote posts that are arrogantly wrong. Really not much else unless it's not relevant to the group at all.

Most of the time it's the echo chamber needs that we all have, we want to see opinions that match our own at the top, and opinions that don't match, at the bottom.

The issue is that social media is very aggressive on the trends. It's easier for people to formulate a judgement (when the opinion is somewhat ambiguous, or not very strong) when someone else has done the actual judgement for you and upvoted/downvoted.

If votes where not shown at all, the comments would have wildly distinct amounts of support. It's a pretty fun subject to study to be fair since it affects all of us very strongly so they are not just fake internet points in that sense. People's days are sometimes dictated by the amount of validation or hate they get from strangers, we've been seeing this since Facebook and it will continue getting more relevant as we move more of our daily lives and activities to the digital world.

something completely insignificant like internet points

Nothing has any value until someone gives value to something.
I give value to my reputation points - it's a force that drives me further into coming up with and posting content 😁 And sometimes I enjoy comparing my points to someone else!
I started fediverse with Lemmy but moved to kbin pretty much because of the reputation system being here.

Don't get me wrong though - I don't care that much about downvoting and I don't let it affect negatively on my behavior. At the end of the day, regarding other people in the Internet has more value to me than Internet points 😌

After reading the comments and looking at how much each has been up/downvoted, I have no fucking idea.

Pathetic humans trying to keep their religious, political, etc ideals at the top. There isn't enough content or comments in Lemmy for it to matter.

Got my upvote for the heck of it

Who cares, I don't display them and am happier than you while doing it

Lemmy is a fickle place.

I vote down stuff I don't want to read. Nothing more than that.

True and all. I don't post content but I comment what I want and ignore the soggy nappies leaving me down votes. ¯_(ツ)_/¯

I downvote because it makes me hard