More like the child is microsoft and the firefighters are linux users
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Oh, and here I was thinking we had 3 more years:
https://massgrave.dev/#how-to-activate-windows--office--extended-updates-esu
Windows 10 is the last Microsoft operating system you will ever need.
https://www.theverge.com/2015/5/7/8568473/windows-10-last-version-of-windows
Ironically? it lasted 10 years. I wonder if 11 will last 11 years? Back in the 95/98 era it seemed like each subsequent version of a MS OS (major updates of 95, 98, 98SE, ME) seemed to be lasting about 0.95 to 0.98 years each.
Yeah the end of security updates severely exaggerated.
Huh, and I thought I needed a Microsoft account, but this way I could maybe even use for the computers at work. Thanks!
If you weren't checking tech news regularly, shit like this just passes right over your head as a regular Linux user sometimes. I keep forgetting about the EoL thing.
Also having a clean frame of reference, if you have been a user for a long time now, you are definitely able to remember occasionally using a Windows machine and seeing the downhill slide literally happen before your eyes as everyone else is unaware of the growing pile of shit and getting slowly boiled like the frog in the pot.
The last version of Windows I'd consider clean of all this modern horseshit that's in those OSes now would be Windows 2000. Even XP started pushing the telemetry shit hard and started getting sketchy towards the end.
Literally just got myself a "new" laptop about 25 minutes ago.
Thanks Microsoft!
Honestly, macOS is going the same way too. They really got their act together with the hardware but the software is so much worse. This last round seems to have absolutely no QA. It’s like they outsourced the entire process.
So guess who just built a Linux PC?
Completely agree, MacOS is turning into a dumpster fire. They keep adding features nobody asked for, and making the whole thing more bloated and flaky in the process.
Well they have that fancy new SoC and all it’s horsepower they get to be irresponsible with now.
I'm really amazed that it's been half a decade now and nobody has made a comparable SoC using ARM or RISCV tailored to Linux.
Nobody tailors hardware to Linux because Linux has historically accommodated crazy ass hardware. (And oh boy does Linus have a lot to say about that)
What I'm saying is that you could make an architecture similar to M1 which would have the same benefits of being fast and energy efficient, and slap a tailored Linux distro on top of it that just work out of the box. As a dev, I'd buy a decently built laptop like that in a second.
Don’t ampere and graviton already meet those needs?
Not really.
Ampere's for servers; if you have the cash to blow, you can get a fancy workstation, but not a laptop. It's really a shame; I think Ampere might be able to do well in the consumer CPU market if they wanted to face Qualcomm (and assuming they can get their single core performance up). A lot of their hardware seems to follow standards pretty well.
Graviton is only used internally inside Amazon and not sold to customers.
The only semi-decent ARM laptops you can get right now are Snapdragon ones, some of which kind of support Linux but with a lot of caveats and obnoxious quarks.
I haven't kept up with the latest minor updates to Tahoe, but I've been staying back on Sequoia because while Tahoe looks very pretty and I'm glad to finally see a potential end to Material design, the readability issues with Tahoe are legitimate and rolling back to Sequoia has been a breath of fresh air.
I jumped over to the Mac world from Linux only this year (although I still keep my X260 with LMDE around) but perhaps it was the worst time to do so - I'll see how I feel once Sequoia support ends and whether Asahi Linux would be more viable.
dark mode is fine in Tahoe. But there’s lot of little things that are broken in Tahoe. I get weird and glitchy behaviors in preview, notes, mail, and safari that should never have gotten past the beta.
I'll second that even in Sequoia now you mention it.
If I'm in a full screen application and I Exposé, the main desktop apps are in view despite the full screen application being highlighted. Swiping left or right between desktops updates something that corrects this, but definitely doesn't feel like intended behavior.
I have dock magnification on and in certain situations, the cursor will leave the dock but the magnification effect remains where it last saw the cursor.
I've just been ignoring it all, did something happen, my windows is still windowing
MS ended support for it, so it won't get security updates or fixes going forward.
If you can get your hands on the LTSC edition, that should have you covered until 2032
Looks like archive.org is hosting this version. Haven't installed yet but I will work on it soon.
We didn't start the fire
It was always burning
CD-ROM was turning
Thank you thank you thank you for reminding me about the lack of windows 10 security updates.
I took the opportunity to "downgrade" to Windows 7. My old HP laptop (which is specifically for a few specialty Windows-only apps) feels double as fast now compared to Windows 10 before. And with the help of LegacyUpdates.net and VxKex-NEXT (provides the very few Windows 10 API calls so you can even run most Win10-only apps on Win7) you get a pretty nice and lean system.
I have to have Windows for my university's test-taking spyware, so I just have a barebones 11 LTSC installed on a secondary drive.
That old laptop’s CPU and TPM are “not supported” by Win11. And also, Win10 already didn’t run that smoothly on it - so, I didn’t even try to hack Win11 onto it.
Wasn't necessarily suggesting 11 LTSC; just my personal choice.
You may create a bootable/live USB with Mint [1] installed on it, and try it out to see if its works perfectly for you - from functional and performance POV.
With Linux, at least you will continue to get security patches. For Win 7 and 10 are out of support now.
[1]https://linuxmint-installation-guide.readthedocs.io/en/latest/burn.html
Read my text again. This is my only Windows laptop - and it needs to be actual Windows for all the obscure firmware update tools of some devices I have flying around.
Everything else in my household is either Linux or MacOS.
Sorry, I just noticed that now.
I expect my Windows 10 machine will continue to do the things I need it to do. If it stops for some reason I'll just reformat.
I'm pretty sure I have an old raspberry pi watering my plant with a 5 year old OS. Never updated once, it's not on the internet anyways.