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The title is a bit misleading, as the article lists diverging analysts' opinions, ranging from Valve willing to sell at a loss or low margins, to high prices due to RAM and SSD price volatility.

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[–] Creat@discuss.tchncs.de 56 points 1 week ago (4 children)

They can't sell this at a loss, or at least it would be incredibly risky. This is (intentionally) "just a PC". It ships with SteamOS but you can of course install whatever you want, including windows. If it is (much) cheaper than a roughly equivalent normal PC, companies might just start buying them in bulk but obviously not generating the supporting sales needed.

[–] uzay@infosec.pub 37 points 1 week ago

If they sell it only through Steam as they do with the Steam Deck, companies wouldn't really be able to buy them in bulk.

[–] x00z@lemmy.world 34 points 1 week ago

I saw in a LTT video that they already claimed they will not be selling this at a loss because they want their hardware division to be self-sustaining.

[–] vrek@programming.dev 27 points 1 week ago (3 children)

I heard at one point in time the fastest super computer in the world was a cluster of 900 ps3. It was cheaper then buying a single computer and in the beginning of the ps3 era you could easily format and run Linux on them.

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[–] Arcane2077@sh.itjust.works 50 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (3 children)

I’m calling $700 US price. Valve’s the only company that can get into the console space with console prices since the real revenue source is the game store they run.

Edit: I slept on it and decided $750 is a safer bet, at least on the base model

[–] reev@sh.itjust.works 25 points 1 week ago (7 children)

The problem is that it makes less sense for them to sell at a loss than for example Xbox or Sony. It's just a capable PC, corporations could buy hundreds or thousands and they wouldn't make a cent off of game sales.

[–] Arcane2077@sh.itjust.works 15 points 1 week ago (1 children)

It's not impossible, however, have you seen what corporations buy for their employees? Saving on upfront cost isn't really part of the equation, it just has to say "dell" and/or "workstation" on it. A large company values long-term support and supply way more than what they'd save by getting a gaming machine.

And besides all that, it's not like the best selling console of all time didn't make money because a (objectively large) minority of owners only used it as a DVD player.

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[–] M1ch431@slrpnk.net 34 points 1 week ago

It’s likely in everybody’s best interest that this is a wild success. Not only will game developers be incentivized to actually optimize their games for reasonable setups; this will unseat Nvidia’s monopoly over gamers with their ridiculously overpriced graphics cards and also Microsoft’s monopoly of a gamer’s operating system.

Nvidia’s partnership with Palantir is incredibly concerning and any blow to Nvidia is a welcome one. Encourage these developments and hype this all up.

[–] HeyJoe@lemmy.world 26 points 1 week ago (1 children)

The article i saw a few days ago specifically mentioned that they didn't really talk about the price but when asked if it would cost more than the ps5 pro they didnt really say no and only offered that it will be priced accordingly to the hardware used to make it. To me, that most likely means it's going to cost around $1k. The absolute max is would ever be willing to pay is like $600. I have no doubt it will sell, but at that $1k price, they will severely limit the group of people that will be buying it. Honestly, if that is the cost, they should be shying away from even associating it as a console and just market it as a PC due to how people think.

[–] village604@adultswim.fan 10 points 1 week ago

Yeah, on announcement day people were adamant about it costing less than consoles, but one look at the specs and you'd know there's no way of that happening.

I'd be shocked if it's under $600

[–] sp3ctr4l@lemmy.dbzer0.com 24 points 1 week ago (9 children)

Moore's Law Is Dead thinks that Valve basically got a bargain bin deal from AMD, who had a bunch of chips they thought were going to be used in a MSFT tablet, but that tablet got cancelled.

So, Valve did some scrapyard engineering, and got a discount on these things that were otherwise never going to be used for anything.

He estimates a total cost to produce of $425, estimates MSRP between $450 to $600, depending on just how hard Valve wants to fuck MSFT with their own leftovers.

https://youtube.com/watch?v=sJI3qTb2ze8

If this ends up being remotely accurate, it would be basically a corporate demolition of Shakespearian quality.

Gabe... Gabe was once a MSFT employee, you see.

A disgruntled former MSFT employee, you might say.

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[–] FireWire400@lemmy.world 20 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (2 children)

I'm not in the market for the GabeCube but if I were, I'd find a price point of $500-$600 attractive, given it's mostly just laptop tier hardware. I would prefer it over the current gen of consoles, although I don't know if there's gonna be the same level of optimisations for games on this as there is on consoles (most likely not really). It'll be a ripper emulation box, though.

~~Upgradability would've been nice, too. Soldered in RAM is ok for a hand-held device but for this? Nah mate....~~

Edit: The RAM isn't soldered, it uses standard SODIMMs.

[–] forks@lemmy.world 13 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (5 children)
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[–] big_slap@lemmy.world 19 points 1 week ago (2 children)

no way this thing costs more than 800

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[–] _haha_oh_wow_@sh.itjust.works 18 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (10 children)

At $1,000 that'd be a hard pass for me even though I love Valve, I could easily build something better for less. I seriously doubt that'll be the price too, it'll probably around $600-800.

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[–] Damage@feddit.it 14 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Higher RAM price is irrelevant as it acts on the whole market, it's not a disadvantage specific to the Steam Machine

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[–] PattyMcB@lemmy.world 13 points 1 week ago (5 children)

As long as it doesn't run Win11

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[–] melfie@lemy.lol 12 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (3 children)

Here’s a gaming laptop for $700 that I think is similarly powered, except it also has a screen, keyboard, a trackpad and a Windows 11 license that probably represent like $200 of that. I’ll probably pick up a SM if it’s around $500 for the base model, but otherwise, I’ll probably build something instead.

https://www.newegg.com/msi-thin-a15-15-6-geforce-rtx-4060-laptop-gpu-amd-ryzen-5-7535hs-16gb-memory-512-gb-nvme-ssd/p/N82E16834156873

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[–] whaleross@lemmy.world 10 points 1 week ago (10 children)

If this post is intended as discussion material; No, not as long that I have my stationary computer that fills my gaming needs.

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[–] melroy@kbin.melroy.org 10 points 1 week ago (12 children)

I'm ready, but Amd is not. I want 4k 120hz on my TV via Amd videocard. But this stupid hdmi forum is blocking this.

[–] far_university1990@reddthat.com 11 points 1 week ago (8 children)

Displayport to HDMI 2.1 adapter?

Regardless, fuck HDMI

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[–] Hadriscus@jlai.lu 10 points 1 week ago

It has a midrange graphics card, it can't cost more than 5 or 6 hundred

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