I don’t support the new fascist leadership
this post was submitted on 14 Nov 2025
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With how things are going, I don't have any hope this will be any good if it even gets made.
Abandon hope, all ye who enter here.
Dungeons and Dragons was great, I'll give them a chance.
Any Trek is good Trek.* Let’s give them a chance.
(*)Except that Section 31 movie.
(*)Except that Section 31 movie.
I'm curious how that went, if anyone saw it. It looked like a terrible idea.
If you’ve read any of the original Valerian and Laureline comics, then think of the entire material available to use, and all what Valerian and Laureline inspired, and the moral values it presented at the time. Then, think of the horrible movie that Luc Besson made, the one that bears the name Valerian. Think of the actors he chose, of how much he shat on everything that the original books stood for, and all the canon material he perverted without a shed of respect.
Consider that absolute crime against humanity Luc Besson did with Valerian.
Well, that Section 31 movie was even worse in regards to all of Star Trek.
It was a horrible trek movie. It was, however an okay sci-fi movie, if you pretend it wasn't set in the trek universe.
Basically a variation on a heist movie imo. That kind of vibe. But it completely failed to fit Trek in any way other than terminology.
It's not as enjoyable as Galaxy Quest in terms of being an homage to trek, and definitely not as enjoyable as the Orville in that regard. But there's been way worse sci-fi movies made for sure. I'd rate it around 3 stars out of five, maybe 3.5. There's sections and characters that bring it down a good bit, but the overall flow is decent
It was, however an okay sci-fi movie
Thank you!
I remember when this used to be good news
Per Wikipedia:
Daley is also known for his collaborative work with fellow writer and director Jonathan Goldstein, working on various films together. Daley and Goldstein's first work together was co-writing the comedy Horrible Bosses (2011), co-writers for The Incredible Burt Wonderstone (2013), co-story writing for Horrible Bosses 2 (2014), and co-writing/co-directing (in their directing debuts) the fifth film in the National Lampoon's Vacation film series, Vacation (2015). The duo were co-writers for Spider-Man: Homecoming (2017) with Jon Watts, Christopher Ford, Chris McKenna and Erik Sommers, and they co-directed the 2018 comedy Game Night and the 2023 fantasy Dungeons & Dragons: Honor Among Thieves.
Also involved in the Minecraft Movie and a TV Horror show called Hysteria.
…Okay.
Could be worse, I guess?
Might be a decent flick but probably terrible Star Trek.
Could be worse, I guess?
How?
Could be M. Night Shyamalan.
I'll give it a chance. These two care about telling a good story while being faithful to the subject matter. That said, their entire resume is jokey movies, which works well for something like D&D but not so well for Star Trek. I wonder if they'll be able to go in a new professional direction and tamp down on that... or if they were hired for that, since Paramount seems to think Star Trek needs to be more Buffy the Vampire Slayer than TOS or TNG.
That said, part of the reason DS9 was so great in later seasons and so rough and uneven in earlier ones was because the drama was fantastic in later seasons and the comedy was so awful in early ones. So who knows, maybe there's a chance to strike a balance and not have it come out as shallow as the 2009 movie.
I’m happy to hear that something new will happen. Hopefully we can break free of all the modern Trek from the last decade. I seriously hope this isn’t going to be yet another nostalgia play where they re-cast the original characters. Please, write something new and explore that amazing universe with new compelling characters, ships, planets and science fiction stories. It would be incredible if they advanced the timeframe to completely break away from the temptation to loop in existing characters or retcon stuff. The last thing we need is another cool and modern interpretation of the 60s aesthetic. Let’s move on and be creative.
I mean. I don’t feel like SNW was burdened by the aesthetic that much.
…And Picard was all future, albeit with legacy characters. They’ve basically tried what you ask. Just piecemeal.
Don’t get me wrong, I'd love a post DS9/Picard Trek with some Changeling or Android crew, but that doesn’t mean it’ll turn out super great.
DC comics cross-over movie
It would be incredible if they advanced the timeframe…
Have you heard of Discovery?
Also, from the article:
sources say Goldstein and Daley’s film is a completely new take on the Star Trek universe and not connected to any previous or current television series, movie or prior movie development projects.
So, it’s good, right?
Discovery advanced the time frame only after it did all the TOS related stuff. Also, it had quite a bit of good sci-fi ideas and a number of cool characters and design, but the writing and dialogue was so utterly cringeworthy at times that it just cannot be taken seriously.
I’m first to admit they did make mistakes; to their defence, so did every other series, and there was the pandemic which screwed with everything
Its like they are trying to destroy the franchise.
It is dead already
Just make it LOOK like Star Trek! Nothing from 2009 onwards besides Lower Decks has actually looked or felt like Star Trek.
Star Wars has been consistent in this.
I blame JJ first and foremost. But strangely he managed to make Star Wars look right….ish.
Lower Decks was great! It shows Trek can still be achieved.
Just make it LOOK like Star Trek!
Yeah, this is how we ended with the Section 31…
S31 was as far from looking, feeling or belonging in Star Trek as a story could be
Yeah... S31 was to Star Trek what a getting fucked in the ass by an elephant while eating a pile of shit is to the fine dinning experience.
Well there’s an image I’d rather not have 😂
Just to really rub it in, the elephant says "Engage" right before he fucks you. But not English, in "the original Klingon". Hes a total dick! lol
Star Trek hasn’t looked like Star Trek since 1979. That’s a good thing.
It was fairly consistent from 1984 to 2005
About as consistent as it’s been from 2009 to 2025. And neither era resembles TOS all that closely.
Stop being silly
But I’ve been silly consistently from 1984 to 2025! Can’t stop now.
Trek should be closer to what we had in the TOS or TNG films. A continuation of a TV show that already has established characters that had plenty of time to explore who they are. I'm willing to bet this new Trek film is gonna be another TOS rehash to avoid having to do any of that.