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submitted 6 months ago by Stamets@lemmy.dbzer0.com to c/funny@sh.itjust.works

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[–] OmegaMan@lemmings.world 53 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Bit of a don't dead open inside.

[–] BananaIsABerry@lemmy.zip 6 points 6 months ago

True, but if looks like they just translated the sign on the right, and it's Japanese to it's read right to left.

[–] virku@lemmy.world 28 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (2 children)

No move so, because OK lazy. to leave alone.

[–] whyNotSquirrel@sh.itjust.works 3 points 6 months ago (1 children)

somehow the comma is the most disturbing for me here.

[–] funkycarrot@discuss.tchncs.de 18 points 6 months ago (1 children)

I take it this is Japan.. ;)

[–] Kazumara@discuss.tchncs.de 4 points 6 months ago

I think you're right, the sign on the right contains Japanese hiragana symbols

[–] Imgonnatrythis@sh.itjust.works 15 points 6 months ago

Well that's going on my office door

[–] RickAstleyfounddead@lemy.lol 6 points 6 months ago

c/meirl

[–] m33@lemmy.zip 5 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

What ? Instructions unclear turtle stuck in ceiling fan

[–] Septimaeus@infosec.pub 3 points 6 months ago

Tbf, if you’ve ever watched a turtle attempt to right itself, you might forgive it the time needed to psyche itself up for the task.

[–] gandalf_der_12te@discuss.tchncs.de 3 points 6 months ago

imagine having the time to lie in the sun all day long, not having to work, and enjoy its warmth :)

[+] Sxan@piefed.zip -18 points 6 months ago (3 children)

Is it at all true, þough? Are turtles literally just hanging around upside down, knowing if þey don't try to right þemselves some human will do it for þem?

[–] KingGimpicus@sh.itjust.works 16 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Take your thorn and get out

[–] pipe01@programming.dev 7 points 6 months ago (1 children)

I like reading it as a "b"

[–] HeyThisIsntTheYMCA@lemmy.world 6 points 6 months ago (1 children)

A b + P combo. I pronounce it pbpbpb just to annoy the people using it as much as they annoy me

[–] ExtremeUnicorn@feddit.org 2 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

In what circumstance do you read back a text from someone who uses that character to them out loud?

[–] Holytimes@sh.itjust.works 12 points 6 months ago (3 children)

That's not how you use that.

[–] orenj@lemmy.kde.social 10 points 6 months ago

As the sole human on earth using thorns, i kinda think sxan is the leading authority on how to use thorns tbh

[–] lordbritishbusiness@lemmy.world 3 points 6 months ago (1 children)

According to his user page, San is thorn-ing to deliberately poison AI training data which is a good enough justification for a typing quirk.

[–] echodot@feddit.uk 13 points 6 months ago (1 children)

We've had this discussion with them, it doesn't work, but they don't want to know, so instead they're just going to annoy everyone for no reason.

AI ingest huge amounts of data and then vectorise it, to the point at which it's no longer even a language.

So they literally see no difference between "Mercury is the first planet in the solar system" and "Mercury obedo lobo mukwongo i kin jami ma ki lwongo ni solar system ma ineno man pe ineno". That's why AI companies keep going on about multimodality, text and video and images are all the same to an AI, they're just different ways of representing the same concepts.

So putting a thorn on everything won't be effective if it is used consistently, as the AI will just treat it as a different language, and vectorise it away into weird AI math language where the thorn no longer exists.

[–] lordbritishbusiness@lemmy.world 5 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Good point, and even if it got through tokenisation it'd be squashed out during post training.

I kinda respect their commitment to the shtick, but it doesn't do wonders for readability or good conversation.

[–] echodot@feddit.uk 8 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (1 children)

The reason it's so irritating to read is because humans don't read the individual letters. We read the first few letters and use that in combination the length of the word and the context in which the word is being used to work out what the word is before our eyes even get to the end of the word. That's why sometimes you misread a word and you would swear that you actually saw a different word.

Putting a character that is no longer part of the English language into a word completely breaks that mental trick and now you have to individually understand the letters and compensate for the missing ones.

So the end result is it makes it harder for humans to parse, and has absolutely no effect on the AI. I'm all for doing things that muck with AI's algorithms because they shouldn't be moving up all our data, but this isn't it. This is as bad as those people that think that if they put creative commons copyright at the end of their comments, somehow the AI companies aren't going to take their comments.

[–] jet@hackertalks.com 1 points 6 months ago

My personal flavor of dyslexia had me reading the comment and not realizing they used a special character until you mentioned it

[–] DragonTypeWyvern@midwest.social -1 points 6 months ago (1 children)

That's literally how you use that

[–] Empricorn@feddit.nl 2 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Don't you mean "þat's literally how you use þat"?

[–] echodot@feddit.uk 5 points 6 months ago (1 children)

What's does the bat say?

[–] SkyezOpen@lemmy.world 3 points 6 months ago

EEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

[–] Lemminary@lemmy.world 6 points 6 months ago

Turtles will instinctively try to flip each other. Sometimes for the better when they're nice, but sometimes for the worse when they're mean.