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[–] FrostyTrichs@lemmy.world 27 points 11 months ago (3 children)

It would be nice to have the option to not just block your data from being accessible to a 3rd party but also feedback junk data into the system. Pollute the data stream until it's no longer useful to the powers that be while still retaining functionality for the user.

One can dream.

[–] valkyre09@lemmy.world 4 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Does an extension exist to do this?

[–] FrostyTrichs@lemmy.world 3 points 11 months ago (1 children)

If it does I'm not aware of it but I'd love to learn of one.

[–] tsonfeir@lemm.ee 21 points 11 months ago (1 children)

What about all the other hidden cookies it sets for the right price? ;)

[–] LWD@lemm.ee 26 points 11 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (1 children)
[–] tsonfeir@lemm.ee 16 points 11 months ago

Right. The sandbox. Silly me. Don’t touch the sand though, it’s full of shit.

[–] _s10e@feddit.de 12 points 11 months ago (2 children)

So what exactly are 3rd party cookies?

I'm on a.com, that is what's shown in the address bar.

The page includes a resource a.com/image.png. A request the server will include cookies from a.com. That's a 1st party cookie. Correct?

The page includes a resource b.com/image.png. The request will not include cookies from a.com; this was always the case. b.com can however set their own cookies. Since we are on a.com, cookies from b.com are 'third party'. Correct?

It gets interesting when we navigate to c.com and c.com includes b.com/image.png, a tracking pixel we have seen before on a.com.

Without 3rd party cookie protection, b.com sees the cookie they set previously while on a.com. This will now be blocked. Correct?

Now explain this in a Javascript world.

[–] phoneymouse@lemmy.world 10 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

Open up developer tools and look at the network requests just about any website you visit makes. Logged in to facebook.com and then went to visit a.com? Well, a.com has a Facebook like button and script delivered to your browser when you load their page that allows Facebook to figure out that your logged in Facebook user id visited a.com. Not only did you do that, but you hovered over a button to buy boots for 3 seconds and didn’t click. Now, Facebook calls home with the knowledge user 827027 is a potential boot buyer and can spam them with boot ads.

Interestingly, a.com also loads about 30 other scripts from other ad networks and trackers, including Google, and similarly lets them call home with info stored in their respective third party cookies.

[–] simonced@lemmy.one 3 points 11 months ago

I am not sure, but I think browsers will block access to third party cookies from javascript. In your example, c.com/script.js will not be able to access b.com cookies. Now, when the browser sends the request to b.com/image.png, browsers will NOT send the cookies associated with b.com when visiting other domains than b.com. BUT, the request might contains a "referer" info set by the browser, hence b.com can still track you. This is something that some browsers block already, but as a web developer, I always see referers in the logs, so it's either not working, or it is opt-in in the options, and normies don't change it...

[–] autotldr@lemmings.world 1 points 11 months ago

This is the best summary I could come up with:


Chrome has finally announced plans to kill third-party cookies.

Google's blog post calls the rollout "Tracking Protection" and says the first tests will begin on January 4, where 1 percent of Chrome users will get the feature.

The rollout comes with some new UI bits for Chrome, with Google saying, "If a site doesn’t work without third-party cookies and Chrome notices you’re having issues—like if you refresh a page multiple times—we’ll prompt you with an option to temporarily re-enable third-party cookies for that website from the eye icon on the right side of your address bar."

Chrome's Privacy Sandbox switch represents the world's most popular browser (Google Chrome) integrating with the web's biggest advertising platform (Google Ads) and shutting down alternative tracking methods used by competing ad companies.

Google says its choice to offer this privacy feature four years after its competitors is a "responsible approach" to phasing out third-party cookies.

Google's position as the world's biggest browser vendor allowed it to delay the death of tracking cookies long enough to create an alternative tracking system, which launched earlier this year in Chrome.


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