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[–] Rekall_Incorporated@piefed.social 19 points 1 month ago (1 children)
[–] doenerpate@feddit.org 9 points 1 month ago (3 children)

how exactly? isn’t piefed "just" another instance in the fediverse?

[–] Rekall_Incorporated@piefed.social 19 points 1 month ago (1 children)

You have comments from different communities under the same URL post. "Multicommunities" but without user intervention.

It does have some drawbacks. For example, under this post, I can see comments from an earlier post (referring to the same URL) from over a year ago.

Piefed is also a platform, in addition to Piefed servers being instances and clients.

[–] doenerpate@feddit.org 5 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Got any links or docs where I can read up on that?

[–] Rekall_Incorporated@piefed.social 6 points 1 month ago (1 children)

I would just try a piefed.social account.

The support docs don't really look comprehensive.

[–] doenerpate@feddit.org 2 points 1 month ago (1 children)

done that already. :) but it looks like this only works for url-posts, which Mlem already handled pretty good before.

[–] Blaze@piefed.zip 6 points 1 month ago (3 children)

Mlem is an iOS client.

Crosspost comments consolidation has to happen in the default UI for everyone to be able to use it

Mlem is an iOS client.

I was wondering what Mlem is. Thanks!

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[–] flamingos@feddit.uk 6 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Solution 2 in the post, multicommunities. I'm not sure it actually solves the problem though, as you still have to go to the actual community to post and I imagine multicomms add an extra layer of confusion to that.

[–] Blaze@piefed.zip 3 points 1 month ago (1 children)

You can post from the multi community/feed, you are then asked which community you want to post to

[–] flamingos@feddit.uk 2 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Clicking though to community to post and selecting a community from the create post page are same problem rearranged. A user who subbed to ~technology@piefed.social isn't going to know the difference between !technology@lemmy.world, !technology@lemmy.zip and !technology@piefed.social.

[–] Blaze@piefed.zip 4 points 1 month ago (1 children)

To be honest that's a problem that can't be solved by tooling, it's a human issue.

I know why there is

If people don't want to consolidate similar communities and just keep them existing next to each other then users have to figure out the differences (sometimes there are almost none) between two communities.

[–] flamingos@feddit.uk 2 points 1 month ago

Yeah, people are tribal and decentralisation lets people express that in ways centralised platforms don't. Something, something, tech won't save us.

[–] snooggums@piefed.world 15 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (3 children)

"Separate conversations are splintering discourse, we should all just shout over each other in one massive wall of text!"

The separate communities across instances is a benefit of federation just like separate posts are a benefit over a single thread for everythjngs. Yes, features that allow them to be combined for those that want that way of interacting is great, but we don't need a single news community between all instances when there are can be massive differences between instances.

[–] doenerpate@feddit.org 4 points 1 month ago (1 children)

you’re right, definitely something I hadn’t really thought about. I just don’t get the sense that some communities are intentionally spread across different instances. Like there are two Plex communities on two separate instances that basically talk about the same stuff. I guess it’s just part of getting used to things, and it throws me off a bit since I’m still new to the fediverse.

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[–] Ludicrous0251@piefed.zip 3 points 1 month ago

Proposed solution 3: Communities following communities

The ability for communities to "subscribe" to other communities is an idea that comes from this Github comment. This is, in my opinion, the best proposed solution by far. Community a can follow community b, making posts from b also appear on a.

What this means is that community moderators can choose to have posts from other communities to show up on theirs. That means if all the pancake communities are following each other, I can post on pancake@a.com and it would show up on the other pancake communities as well, and the comments would simply be grouped into just one post!

The main proposed solution doesn't force merging on anyone. Mods can decide whether or not they want content from other communities to show up in their space. No two news instances have to merge if they serve different audiences.

It isn't explicitly called out in the proposal but I could easily see there being an option for mods to unlink individual posts from other communities if they get too spicy.

[–] SorteKanin@feddit.dk 2 points 1 month ago

Exactly. This is a non issue and actually a feature.

[–] SorteKanin@feddit.dk 7 points 1 month ago (1 children)

This is a non issue. Different communities and instances have different rules, norms, cultures etc. There's no need to smash everyone together in a monoculture.

[–] kubofhromoslav@lemmy.world 3 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Technically, I agree.

Practically, I myself have experienced several fragmented communities about the same topic with similar ethos. This was not a healthy separation based on different norms. It was simple, ineffective fragmentation. Or, at least the ethos and norms differences wasn't clear.

[–] SorteKanin@feddit.dk 4 points 1 month ago

I feel like it is just a matter of time before either:

  1. The fragmented communities develop more and become distinct, so that they are more unique and shouldn't merge.
  2. One of the communities becomes the more popular "default" option, and the other becomes less active as people gather in the more popular one.

Even if that doesn't happen, redundancy isn't bad. We've seen how hard it is to migrate when there's only 1 real option and that option disappears or goes bad for some reason (i.e. reddit). If there was another fairly active community with the same focus, that would make it easier to keep going. That's part of why decentralization is good.

[–] irelephant@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 1 month ago (2 children)

Piefed merges comments sections on cross posts.

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[–] Derpenheim@lemmy.zip 2 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Maybe I am misunderstanding something. I am on lemmy.zip, but I see communities from many different instances. How is it segregated?

[–] doenerpate@feddit.org 4 points 1 month ago (1 children)
[–] Derpenheim@lemmy.zip 3 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Oh, okay. Im not super familiar with how all this works. Thanks

[–] Ludicrous0251@piefed.zip 1 points 1 month ago

The article does a good job breaking it down, but a short example is if you want to post about technology, you have to choose one of those communities to post to.

You can cross post or repost in the other communities but then any discussion gets fragmented, people see the same thing multiple times in their feed, only engage with one, and likely not the same one as somebody else.

On the other hand only posting in one community could significantly reduce engagement if you choose poorly.

[–] kubofhromoslav@lemmy.world 1 points 1 month ago

Nice thing would be to have a structured way to clearly present differences between communities of same name. Eg. possibility to link (in machine readable way) in sidebar to other communities and mark them as pure duplicates, or state the actual difference. This information could show also in search and crosspoting dialog.

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