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[–] Semi-Hemi-Demigod@kbin.social 59 points 2 years ago (3 children)

This more than most sitcoms is just abusive relationships with a laugh track. Glad it’s not getting rebooted

[–] Starglasses@lemmy.blahaj.zone 13 points 2 years ago (1 children)

I hated so much how horrible they were to the brother.

Shitting on him was supposed to be "funny".

It was mean. Obnoxious. We don't need that repeated.

Most shows need a character to bully for some reason. I guess everyone in Hollywood just chooses someone in their life to verbally abuse and they think everyone else does that too?

[–] Sheeple@lemmy.world 13 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Also why I'd it that so many sitcoms decide to just have everyone be abusive dick wads? It's infuriating to watch and I miss the more wholesome sitcoms

[–] wrath_of_grunge@kbin.social 4 points 2 years ago (1 children)

would you care to point out which ones didn't feature abusive dickwads?

like that's kind of a thing that goes back a long ways.

[–] RampantParanoia2365@lemmy.world 4 points 2 years ago

Charles in Charge?

[–] Son_of_dad@lemmy.world 5 points 2 years ago

Yeah Debrah was awful to Ray and always nagging him

[–] themeatbridge@lemmy.world 31 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

You can't replace Peter Boyle and Doris Roberts. But it would be cathartic to see Patricia Heaton with a daughter-in-law who is entirely inept as a cook and homemaker, and she has to resist the urge to become Marie while watching Ray become his father.

[–] DessertStorms@kbin.social 19 points 2 years ago

Good.
It was barely funny when it first came out, and hasn't aged well at all (I know because it's on every fucking morning when there is literally nothing else to watch).
Keep the misogyny, toxic masculinity and heteronormativity, and abusive-bullshit-as-normal in the past where they belong - boomer humour needs to be allowed to die, not kept alive at any cost to fill a handful of greedy pockets and entertain bigots (cough cough Frasier cough cough).

[–] wrath_of_grunge@kbin.social 14 points 2 years ago

let things have their time. i understand the idea behind a lot of these revivals, but they're often pretty bad. it's not just about getting actors back and rebuilding sets. it's about the writers and all the other people that work on these shows. i'm fairly happy with how the Futurama revival turned out, but they were already set up for it, and it was really just another joke about all the other times they got revived.

in the case of Everybody Loves Raymond, you don't have Peter Boyle. without him the show would just be a shadow of its former self anyway.

sometimes it's better to imagine these characters just riding off into the sunset.

[–] Alexstarfire@lemmy.world 14 points 2 years ago

I never liked it to begin with so I'm ok with this.

[–] metaStatic@kbin.social 12 points 2 years ago

Good news everybody

[–] AceFuzzLord@lemm.ee 9 points 2 years ago (3 children)

So far the only thing I'll ever say was a good reboot was the 2nd Jumanji movie. The one that came after that is a shameless cash grab with little to no soul, but the other one was actually pretty decent.

They didn't pull a Star Wars and take the best parts of the previous movies to make a new film. They didn't make it overly cringe or completely dumb it down to the point of being nothing at all like the original. And they tried something new instead of just re-creating the original but only changing the time period and characters.

[–] Hyperreality@kbin.social 16 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

Off the top of my head: Doctor Who, Star Trek: The Next Generation, Battlestar Galactica.

[–] AceFuzzLord@lemm.ee 4 points 2 years ago (1 children)
[–] 520@kbin.social 2 points 2 years ago (1 children)

And the first few Mission: Impossible movies. They were a reboot of a 70s show.

[–] AceFuzzLord@lemm.ee 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Had no idea since I've never seen any of them. Closest I ever came was having a PS1 Mission Impossible game and never making it past the start.

[–] 520@kbin.social 2 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

Ahhh the video game wasn't that good. The first and imo especially the second film was amazing.

[–] WarmSoda@lemm.ee 4 points 2 years ago (1 children)

You're comparing movies to sitcoms.

[–] AceFuzzLord@lemm.ee 9 points 2 years ago

It's the best reboot example I have because all others I've seen suck. I don't have any other point of reference for good reboots other than Jumanji.

[–] Empricorn@feddit.nl 1 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

the other one was actually pretty decent.

So it was only mediocre? I can't personally speak to it as I only saw the original, but this is hardly a ringing endorsement for reboots as a whole, or even that specific one.

[–] Gamoc@lemmy.world 7 points 2 years ago

Obviously Ray is worried, because Everybody Loves Raymond was SO shit that an even worse reboot would create a hole in reality that everything would be sucked into. God knows where we would end up.

[–] Vespair@lemm.ee 7 points 2 years ago (2 children)

Pfft, Degrassi the Next Generation kicked Degrassi's ass.

Also the more respectable answers like Star Trek TNG, FMA Brotherhood, and The Office too, but I stand by Degrassi TNG > Degrassi!

[–] Maoo@hexbear.net 4 points 2 years ago

It was cool how they got Drake to come back and hang out with all those high schoolers

[–] BolexForSoup@kbin.social 3 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (2 children)

FMA brotherhood is very divisive lol but I liked it too! It’s also not really a “reboot” in the traditional sense.

[–] Vespair@lemm.ee 2 points 2 years ago

If I'm being fer real fer real, I like FMA and FMA:B equally and think they both have very different but on the whole equal things of value to offer.

[–] sigmaklimgrindset@sopuli.xyz 2 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (5 children)

FMA:B divisive? This is the first I’ve heard that, isn’t it the top rated anime on MAL?

edit: Also 17th on imdb’s top 250 tv shows of all time, with the only animated shows ahead of it being Rick and Morty, Bluey (lol), and Avatar: The Last Airbender

[–] worsedoughnut@lemdro.id 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Don't you dare disrespect Bluey

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[–] averyminya@beehaw.org 5 points 2 years ago (2 children)

Good for him, he must be doing okay on money. Lol.

[–] wrath_of_grunge@kbin.social 6 points 2 years ago (1 children)

the Rosanne revival wasn't because she needed money, but more for the rest of the cast who hadn't been so lucky.

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[–] w2tpmf@lemmy.world 4 points 2 years ago

The first agreeable thing to ever come out of him.

[–] HootinNHollerin@sh.itjust.works 3 points 2 years ago

Be like Raymond

[–] odigo2020@lemmy.zip 3 points 2 years ago (1 children)

I think Will and Grace was the only reboot that was quality. I've heard good things about the Kids in the Hall reboot, but I don't think that really counts since it's sketch comedy.

[–] Hyperreality@kbin.social 6 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

Arguably "Whose Line Is It Anyway?" is a reboot. Not sure if the The Office counts.

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[–] toxicbubble420@beehaw.org 2 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

Somewhere in Queens is a fantastic watch & the closest we'll get, apparently noone here watched it

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