Me when I have to compile something myself: :(
Me when I install something from the AUR: yay
Edit: I don't use Chaotic AUR though. I'm more lawful neutral.
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Me when I have to compile something myself: :(
Me when I install something from the AUR: pikaur
Hmm doesn't sound quite right in my case
I'm totally stealing that. Thank you :D
I liked that
Just always write your own PKGBUILDs and never use the ones from AUR.
In fact, just write your own PKGBUILDs rather than using the Arch repos.
Make Arch Gentoo Again.
I don't get all the noise around AUR being unsafe. Just verify the PKGBUILDS whenever you install or update something.
Just verify
requires basic programming knowledge or at least some time to get familiar with PKGBUILDs, and then they have to take the time to read it.
Yes, I agree people should at least look up where it loads data from, but people are lazy.
I would argue that it's their own fault then. Laziness is not a valid excuse to put yourself so much at risk. If you start doing it consistently, it becomes a habit and won't take much effort. Of course, the familiarity with PKBUILD syntax has a learning curve
But a peer-reviewing system would be a better approach in AUR. Weird that it's not been implemented yet.
I guess it can be assumed that a good number of people read the PKGBUILDs, so at some point malware would be found. A peer-reviewing system would give people a false sense of security, since the AUR is a user repository, where breakage should be expected (compared to the official repos).
How would peer reviewing in a user repo be more a sense of false security compared to official repos? I don't know any of the arch maintainers, so for me it's also pure trust they don't do shady stuff.
Peer reviewing would not be failproof for sure, but at least it would give more security than not reviewing the pkbuilds, and especially to those that aren't too familiar with them
You're right, a peer-review system would be a net positive. Should updates be reviewed before publishing? This means updates take longer to arrive.
I think the argument is pretty solid as an alternative to writing PKGBUILDs yourself. Sure it doesn't hold up for people unfamiliar, but Arch is build on the idea of getting yourself familiar with it.
Agreed. People should learn to read PKGBUILDs, but given how popular Arch(-based) distributions are, I do think many people won't bother. Afterall, many people download random things all the time.
That would be slackware current.
Don't talk about chaos until you've used the AUR on Manjaro.
Honestly the AUR is the main thing stopping me from distro hopping...that and laziness
You can have AUR packages on other distros through ditrobox btw
Call me traditional, but I find regular AUR to be chaotic enough.
At some point my arch system was more than half aur git packages.
So I just nooved to gentoo now and wait 5 hours for qtwebengine to compile for qutebrowser.
Don't regret it.
Reminder that compilation from source is absolutely futile to support because of the arbitrary nature of libs and deps on the machine at time of build and replication of the environment for repro. KThx
Right, that's why I use Gentoo.
Shit just works.
If AUR is a golden hook I am that fish.
What's this about chaotic being unsafe?
You can't inspect pkgbuild with Chaotic since Chaotic compiles the packages for you.
Yeah. Most chaotic packages are pre built binaries. Saves you time, and usually not problematic, but has the potential to screw you in a big way. Kinda like opening anything in Outlook in Windows.