From inside the EU: this is bullshit and should worry every one of us.
this post was submitted on 19 Dec 2023
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Should it, though? EU should protect its borders.
We protected our borders long before these surveillance technologies existed. We should keep doing it without, because it's just a matter of time that what is normalized for travellers is normalized for us.
This is already normalised for travellers in most of the world outside of Europe. It’s nothing new, just new to Europe.
And no one says that we need to import all the shit.
Not necessarily.
You only get on the list if you do something wrong.
The UK just had a big article revealing that their Prevent database was being shared with border control (edit: link). The Prevent database covers people who have not committed any crime but have shown some indication of potentially becoming radicalised towards terrorirsm or towards some other crime. The vast majority are labelled "no further action" but still have been shared with customs. Some were children as young as 6 and 4.
You absolutely don't need to do anything wrong to get on a list. Hell, just browsing the internet gets you put on all sorts of lists.
You’re clearly not familiar with the shitshow that is the US no-fly list.
So you are saying 'I have nothing to hide'.
Yeah, wake up and have breakfast.
Abolish all borders
Yeah, not likely and not really wanted. You don't want terrorists in your country.
I dont care abolish the state there.should.be no borders
Well, I do care. There should be borders.
What exactly are you worried about?
Police state.
Yeah, it's a slippery slope. First they get fingerprints of tourists and than you have no rights.
You know, if you can't say anything smart by staying silent you can hide it.
You need a comma in there somewhere, smartarse
Good. They don't get special treatment anymore.
This is the best summary I could come up with:
A new EU digital border system that will require fingerprints and facial scans to be taken from British travellers on first use is expected to launch next autumn, according to reports.
The entry/exit system (EES) is earmarked to start on 6 October 2024, according to the i and Times newspapers, citing Getlink, the owner of Eurotunnel.
Eurotunnel, which runs a car transport service between Folkestone and Calais, is said to be testing the technology, in which personal data will be collected at borders and entered into an EU-wide database.
The original planned rollout, which had been scheduled for this year, was delayed amid fears it could disrupt travel to next summer’s Olympics in Paris.
The Port of Dover has previously estimated the additional requirements were likely to add up to 10 minutes for a family of five in a vehicle on their first trip after the EES is introduced, compared with about 45-90 seconds.
Eurotunnel reportedly estimates the average time for processing a car through the French frontier will rise from less than 60 seconds to 5-7 minutes.
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Good. Fingerprints are in the passport so checking them isn't a problem. Outside EU means Outside EU.