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[–] MacroCyclo@lemmy.ca 11 points 1 week ago

The headline sounds bad, but it would similar to a headline reading "landlords evicting more people than ever before in ontario". In both cases it would mean the massive backlog of cases is being cleared up. This also means way fewer people in limbo not sure if they are going back or becoming refugees which is probably a good thing. Some have been here for years without a yes or no decision.

[–] Candid_Andy@lemmy.ca 5 points 1 week ago (1 children)

A big STFU to the Conservatives.

[–] yogthos@lemmy.ml 15 points 1 week ago (1 children)

More like Carney is an actual conservative through and through.

[–] ILikeBoobies@lemmy.ca 1 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

He was elected as such but this doesn’t have enough information to lean one way or another.

The educated guess says it’s because he’s an American loving traitor.

But the increase in refugee claims from the US, and low deportation during the pandemic making it return to 2015 levels requires more journalistic work to give a story.

[–] dermanus@lemmy.ca 8 points 1 week ago (3 children)

The educated guess says it’s because he’s an American loving traitor.

LOL. I think you might need a bit more education. Let me guess, he hasn't been sufficiently vocally anti Trump in your mind?

[–] yogthos@lemmy.ml 5 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (2 children)

Why does it matter how vocal he is. It's what he does that counts. So far, he has bent overy to ever American demand, and he intends to spend 3.8 billion buying jets from them. That money could've been invested in creating domestic industry through crown corps to build infrastructure and housing instead, which would've created a job boom here. Instead, he's handing it over to a country that's threatening to annex us.

[–] CaperGrrl79@lemmy.ca 4 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Ugh. So much for Elbows Up.

[–] yogthos@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 week ago

More like elbows down, ass up.

[–] dermanus@lemmy.ca 1 points 1 week ago (2 children)

The jets predates Trump, and he's slow rolling it exactly because he knows how mercurial Trump is.

He's actively working to separate us from the US but we've been strongly integrated for generations, it's going to take time.

I'm laughing at OP for being over the top and dramatic.

[–] AGM@lemmy.ca 6 points 1 week ago

Actively working to separate us from the US? He may be working to diversify on trade, but not on security policy, and the approach being taken for negotiations around the trade war is to frame us as a security ally instead of an economic competitor. We've ramped up military spending in accordance with US demands and the bills around border security, immigration and information sharing are moves to align us more closely with US national security policies.

We are actually positioning in ways very much aligned with US global security strategy. Our defence investments are in the Arctic, not our southern border. Our new international defence agreements heave been on two fronts, one forming a line against Russia from Ukraine through the Baltics and across the Arctic, and the other surrounding China. Our defense investment is totally in alignment with US strategy on burden sharing and demands that allies increase their investment in revitalizing their own defense industrial bases to shoulder more burden for coming wars.

Are we materially doing anything that indicates positioning to protect ourselves from the US in terms of security? The Gripens use American engines and the US can impose export bans on those if they want, and their advantages are in Arctic performance and for fighting Russia, not the US. To me, that all really just looks like it's a domestic economic stimulus move that fits in with US continental security strategy while also working as stimulus for SAAB aligned with US demands that Europe reindustrialize their defence manufacturing capabilities.

Have we said anything on Venezuela? Nope. We rushed to stand behind Trump in Egypt to back the "ceasefire" plan legitimizing ethnic cleansing and we take no material actions against Israel. We don't actually do anything to stand up against US violations of international law, and Carney himself penned an essay in The Economist that laid out how we're moving away from universal multilateral institutions like the UN and going to a system where we essentially pay to play as part of American-led initiatives.

Of course, there's also the AI investment from Microsoft and Evan Salomon backing Microsoft's massive investment in AI data center development in Canada with the idea that this will power AI use in Canadian public service, and that Microsoft will operate a new cybersecurity initiative in Ottawa that will work with the Federal Government on that. Seems a lot more like deepening integration than independence imo.

Let's see what 2026 brings, but so far I would say there are many actions that suggest we are actually deepening alignment with the US on security strategy even as we're diversifying economically.

[–] yogthos@lemmy.ml 2 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Why does it matter that the jet deal predates Trump. Americans cancelled a whole bunch of deals, why is it that Canada can't reciprocate. He's very obviously not working to separate us from the US in any meaningful way. It's going to take effort like investing in domestic economy instead of trying to ramp up NATO spending to 5% of GDP while doing austerity. The lengths liberals will go to defend the incompetence of their party truly knows no bounds.

[–] dermanus@lemmy.ca 2 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Why does it matter that the jet deal predates Trump. Americans cancelled a whole bunch of deals, why is it that Canada can't reciprocate

Because other countries need to know we keep our word.

He's very obviously not working to separate us from the US in any meaningful way.

Examples? Pipeline to the Pacific and opening trade up with Europe suggests otherwise.

It's going to take effort like investing in domestic economy instead of trying to ramp up NATO spending to 5% of GDP while doing austerity.

Where do you think most of that money is going to be spent? In Canada.

The lengths liberals will go to defend the incompetence of their party truly knows no bounds.

I'm no partisan, but I do think he was the best of the options available to us.

[–] yogthos@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Because other countries need to know we keep our word.

That's complete nonsense. First of all, I don't know who these countries are. Second of all, all they learn is that Canada will bend over under pressure. This is not an arbitrary reneging on a deal, it's a response to aggression by the other country. If you made a deal with somebody and they later came to your house to try to rob you, nobody would fault you for pulling out of doing deals with them. You really got a get a better narrative going there.

Examples? Pipeline to the Pacific and opening trade up with Europe suggests otherwise.

Ramming pipelines through indigenous land in a middle of the climate crisis while doubling down on trade with Europe where economies are now collapsing is not the kind of development that I'm looking for. As I already stated, I want to see development of Canadian industry, clean energy, infrastructure, housing, and healthcare. He's doing none of that.

Where do you think most of that money is going to be spent? In Canada.

The actual question is WHAT that money will be spent on. Unlike you, I don't care about Canadian oligarchs stuffing their coffers.

I’m no partisan, but I do think he was the best of the options available to us.

That's a thought terminating cliche. Claiming you have to choose between two evils and there is absolutely nothing else people could be doing is precisely the sort of idiocy that got us where we are today. People could be protesting, organizing unions, doing general strikes, and taking real political action that affects business interests. Their profits going down is the only language they understand. Instead, we have people like you braying how we just have to vote harder.

[–] dermanus@lemmy.ca 2 points 1 week ago (1 children)

You've moved the goalposts so far you're in a different field. Nothing you've said, if we accept it as accurate, makes him an "America loving traitor".

[–] yogthos@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 week ago

I didn't move any goal posts at all. I've repeatedly stated the exact same position here that the actions Carney is taking are not helping make Canada less dependent on the US, and make it self sufficient. Also, nowhere did I talk about him being “America loving traitor.” That's just a straw man you're building with your reddit style debate bro tactics. What I actually pointed out was that his actions aren't helping make Canada sovereign.

[–] ILikeBoobies@lemmy.ca 4 points 1 week ago (1 children)

He’s been very pro Trump.

He also keeps trying to throw us under the bus by creating trade deals with the US.

[–] dermanus@lemmy.ca 2 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Since you gave no actual reasons I'll speculate.

Digital services tax? A dumb law I'm glad to see gone.

Not outright rejecting buying the F35s? He's buying time, stringing Trump along.

He also keeps trying to throw us under the bus by creating trade deals with the US.

He literally ran on that. He's a traitor for doing what he was elected to do? What's he supposed to do instead? Make a big performative show that will feel good but ultimately hurt the country?

Let's take that angle actually. In your opinion, what should he have done differently? In order to not be a traitor I mean.

[–] ILikeBoobies@lemmy.ca 3 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Not outright rejecting buying the F35s? He’s buying time, stringing Trump along.

This only hurts us.

He literally ran on that. He’s a traitor for doing what he was elected to do?

He was elected to trade with anyone other than the Americans. The only time he lucked into this was an Ontario ad.

He’s not punishing anyone that does business with the US. That alone is worth resigning over.

Trump has entered our country and we didn’t arrest him.

Maybe I’m unaware of the hostile actions he’s taken with the US but I can’t see how anyone can call him anything other than an American sympathizer.

[–] corsicanguppy@lemmy.ca 1 points 1 week ago

Dude. Boobies is a conservative trying to #bothsides a liberal while the Dems are down and out.

Just step around it and move on.

[–] theacharnian@lemmy.ca 3 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Shameful. We should be opening up our borders to more refugees, not deporting the existing claimants.