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You know you're crooked when "users can run the software they want on their own hardware" causes the sky to fall.
And EU is pounding Apple to get 3rd party app stores on its platform.
Meanwhile at Sony:
Yeah, this is a boon for the end user, and a loss for rootkit distributor Sony.
Strong ai slop vibes emanating from the article. It's full of contradictions and listicles. Each section feels divorced from the others, and subsection titles are larger than section titles.
The information density feels way too high for something ai written, but at the very least they must've used an ai to fuck it up afterwards
Yeah I checked the twitter profiles of the two people mentioned, one doesnt talk about it at all and the other says it's not what people think and it won't enable CFW.
AI nonsense.
Yeah agreed especially further down when it's just randomly rehashing old history. It's also mixing up decryption and verification even in the beginning of the article. First they write:
BootROM (Level 0): The CPU runs code burned into it at the factory. This code is immutable (cannot be changed). It uses the ROM Keys to verify the signature of the next loader.
Then just two paragraphs below:
The ROM Keys change everything. With these keys, hackers can decrypt the Level 1 Bootloader.
So which is it? Usually bootloaders in a chain hash the next stage. That hash is compared with the signed hash the stage presents, and the signature on the signed hash is cryptographically verified against the locally stored trusted keys. No encryption or decryption takes place. Maybe this is different for the PS5 but then that would be noteworthy, not something you just assume readers to know.
Maybe I am missing something but I think you answers your own question?
ROM is Level 0, it has the burned-in, permanent key. It hashes and verifies the Level 1 bootloader, on disk, signed with the ROM key.
Now that the ROM key is known, anyone can sign a PS5 bootloader; and you can pretty much do whatever you want from there.
It would seem that all existing PS5s just went up in value.
That was a rhetorical question after I pointed out the inconsistency: The author claimed they keys were for verification and then also said they were used to decrypt.
That's most likely bullshit, and if it isn't they should explain the unusual setup in detail instead of glossing over it.
If ps5 hack will allow running linux on it, i will run linux on it.
That is already possible, but the hacks to get it actually to run are quite annoying and limited to a few older versions AFAIK.
Hopefully with this you can just boot Linux normally on a PS5 in the nearish future. Would definitely make for a nice Steam Machine.
Isn't there a lot of custom hardware that would require drivers to allow it to work effectively?
They have been selling the same SoCs (slightly defective ones) in various forms for crypto-mining etc. and as a result Linux kernel support is supposedly quite good already.
I will not post the keys here for legal reasons.
One paragraph later posts a picture of the xit.
Why is it always game consoles that get these leaks and not like, phone firmware or gpu vbios
I think it's just the amount of love for game consoles is much higher than phones, where people are a bit complacent.
I do agree it should happen more often.
Also there are SO many phones.
There's only a few ps5s. I'm not sure if they share the same code that's been leaked here but probably.
Consoles have extremely limited variations, less variables to mess with. A ps5 is a ps5, but a Samsung Galaxy 25 isn't the same as a Samsung Galaxy FE25
As someone else pointed out, there's a shit ton of different phones. In 2012 alone, how many different "Samsung Galaxy ...." did samsung release? Wikipedia lists 6
That's 1 company, with 1 brand name in 1 year. Each with different hardware and as of late those phones have been harder and harder to even open. However, there's a handful of models of "PS5" standard, slim, pro. They are also very easy to open requiring regular tools your average joe is likely to have, in fact sony encourages this in case you want to upgrade your SSD. It's a lot harder to keep a system secure if the user can poke and prod the hardware, i mean the Wii's security was literally beaten by tweezers
Good news, a new exploit has been recently found that can unlock the boot loader of several older Sony phones, even the Japanese models which were not unlockable until the discovery!
xperable - Xperia ABL fastboot Exploit [CVE-2021-1931]
I just want to be able to back up my saves to usb
Oh Sony is actually cooked now.
I give it a month before unlocked PS5s are everywhere, and maybe six months to an year before a full on PS5 emulator. Brazilians in general LOVE hacked consoles and pirated games, hell the PS2 and Xbox 360 were extremely popular here for that exact reason.
This is literally the Gol D. Roger Execution moment for us.
Sony isn't even cooked, man. Piracy is a non issue to the bottom line. The Switch had this plus fully functional pirate installers in like, month 2 and Nintendo still sold a morbillion copies of TOTK despite all the hackable consoles on the market (and the maturity of emulators)
The GBA had a working emulator before it even came out.
It's really not. Literally the same thing happened with the PS3, arguably that was much worse and it didn't cook Sony at all.
Piracy never ever actually hurts big companies. Game consoles make their entire business on selling "just plug it in and click the prompts and play the game, ezpz" as a lifestyle. It doesn't matter how fully hacked a console is or how easy it is to hack them, the percentage of users that'll mod and pirate is always miniscule.
Look at sales numbers for Pokemon X and Y, which released when the 3DS was ironclad. Compare them to Pokémon Omega Ruby and Alpha Sapphire, which released when 3DS piracy required a $100 flashcart and an ancient system firmware with no downgrade route. Compare those to Pokémon Sun and Moon, which released when five minutes with an SD card and a magnet would let you pirate the game directly from Nintendo's own fucking server, complete with fully functional online play. Notice a pattern? No you don't, they all sold like hotcakes.
Every first party Nintendo game released after 2016 other than Super Mario Odyssey was available to pirates before legitimate buyers, until the Switch 2 came out. That entire near decade of Nintendo was exclusively releasing games for compromised platforms. Nintendo did pretty well financially during that period, I'd say. Wii piracy was trivial as soon as the Twilight Hack dropped, yet late life Wii games sold gangbusters. And on the Wii, pirates legitimately got a better product because they got to bypass the Wii's dogshit DVD lens and disc load times. R4s and clones and upgrades existed for nearly the entire Nintendo DS lifespan. GBA games were playable on the PC before the console came out in the United States.
Time to do the jump from ps2 to ps5 this 2026
Or save on a PC instead since most PS5 games are coming to PC.
If someone gets Bazzite running on it I will 100% start shopping around for a used ps5.
Hell yeah
I doubt it but if true I will put Bazzite on mine.
Not that I particularly care as the few exclusives on ps5 are all arriving on pc.
But this is gonna be hell on earth for anyone interested in competitive multiplayer games.
And the damage to Sony might be epochal if the exploit is easy enough for anyone to do it.
Competitive multiplayer games are already cooked on Playstation anyways since a lot of console cheaters use Cronus on PS4s that can't detect it.
So this means we can Homebrew the PS5 and install Linux??? Less go
This is really cool, fuck Sony
If the PS5 could be booted to a decent Linux desktop, I'd buy one to play with it. A good OS with a fun form factor.
Otherwise, don't buy consoles.
Well, someone is certainly not having a Happy New Year heh.
Meanwhile others are absolutely over the moon celebrating 🎉
Now we are getting somewhere
I have a PS5 that I rarely turn on. Everything ends up on PC. PC handhelds better than a PS Portal. To phone streaming everything supports. Playing PC games on Android is a thing now. Switch handles party gaming. No replacing Mario party/kart/tennis/strikers/golf. Nintendo IP party games are OP
What I'm interested in are the insights the PS5 will give into PS4 architecture. PS5 is backwards compatible and seeing what the PS5 does to accommodate any problematic games in BC. PS4 emulation over 5 because 4 is well along. PS5 is deep in the no console exclusives era. Early PS4 still had semblance of third party exclusives and Japanese games skipping PC
I unplugged the PS5 Ethernet port just in case I ever want to do something in the future. I doubt it besides possibly future of running Linux on it. It'd make a great gaming PC someday as a gift. People always talk about exclusives as a reason for consoles. I play way more games on PC that aren't available on consoles. Too old and abandoned. Too indie so it may not show up for years if ever on consoles.
Hopefully the Xbox series X gets jail broken someday too. They'd be great values for gaming PCs
Let me guess, they sunk their battleship?