Democratic leaders are calling the bombing and kidnapping wreckless acts, not illegal acts. Schumer has never said or even strongly wrote the word "illegal."

Democratic leadership is okay with this illegal war and will do everything it can to legitimize it. Schumer is aligned with trumps oil and imperialist goals

[–] Warl0k3@lemmy.world 19 points 5 days ago (1 children)

Under US law it's probably not illegal given the way trump has framed it, hence why they're not saying it was. It would be too easy to dismiss their criticism if they got such a basic technicality wrong. Side note but I don't know of a relevant international law or treaty preventing this situation either, prior to the orange jackass this wasn't something people considered a concern.

[–] madcaesar@lemmy.world 22 points 5 days ago (1 children)

This is the classic Trump playbook. He looks at shit people wouldn't think of doing since most people are decent human beings and then exploits it.

If he was a basketball coach he'd send his team out with baseball bats because technically there is no written out rule you can't bring in bats onto the court...

It's how he's manage to dismantle so much of our society and decorum.

He's just cancer in human form.

[–] Warl0k3@lemmy.world 7 points 5 days ago

"Ain't no rules says a pedophile can't play basketball"

[–] sik0fewl@piefed.ca 14 points 5 days ago (1 children)

It only violates international law, which America is immune from.

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[–] Earthman_Jim@lemmy.zip 9 points 3 days ago (4 children)

What's AMPHIFA?

[–] Johnmannesca@lemmy.world 12 points 3 days ago (1 children)

amphibian antifa?

[–] Earthman_Jim@lemmy.zip 4 points 3 days ago

Oooooooh!

[–] MonkeMischief@lemmy.today 9 points 3 days ago (1 children)

My uneducated guess:

"ANTIFA is designated as terrorists or something now but...this is an entirely different group and we ALSO are sick of your crap!" Lol

[–] ThunderQueen@lemmy.world 4 points 3 days ago (1 children)

The funniest part is that labeling antifa a terrorist orgnaization is like labeling leaves the best purple. It isnt an organization or group. They know that though.

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[–] KonalaKoala@lemmy.world 4 points 3 days ago

It could be Amphibians Fighting Authoritarianism.

[–] Microtonal_Banana@lemmy.zip 1 points 3 days ago

It started with the Portland frogs

[–] FundMECFS@anarchist.nexus 34 points 4 days ago (11 children)

Who cares if he had the authority or not.

What matters is that the people of Venezuela did not consent to his imperialistic actions. Not whether he has authority to make imperialistic actions.

[–] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 8 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Who cares if he had the authority or not.

Democrats, mostly. If he'd just received permission in advance (a comically easy feat in this pro-war legislature) he could have straight up leveled Caracas and all we'd be reading in the news are "Why Venezuelans deserved it" Op-Eds.

What matters is that the people of Venezuela did not consent to his imperialistic actions.

I gotta disagree. They're already greeting us as liberators. I've received dozens of AI generated videos of Venezuelans clapping and cheering and waving "Give Trump The Nobel Peace Prize Now" banners over freeways full of cars painted like American flags.

[–] BoJackHorseman@lemmy.world 5 points 3 days ago (3 children)

If another country kidnapped Trump for his rape of minors, because it's illegal in the other country, Americans would be celebrating too. But that doesn't mean it's the right thing to do. Another country has no rights to interfere in America.

[–] MrMcGasion@lemmy.world 5 points 3 days ago

I'd argue America has shown it's the one country that other countries do have a right to interfere with. After ~70 years of being the drunken, overconfident, asshole that's ruining the experience for everyone at the bar because we've decided we're the bouncer. On some level we've kinda made ourselves everyone's problem.

It's not a perfect analogy, because in a bar everyone else could just leave, and that's not an option when you're sharing a planet.

[–] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 2 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

If another country kidnapped Trump

It would imply a seismic shift in the military capacity of the United States. We'd be looking at a country whose dozen-odd aircraft carriers and legions of armored cavalry and massive panopticon of intelligence gathering had fully failed to prevent the most high profile security disaster since 9/11.

Americans would be celebrating too

Liberals would be celebrating quietly while they made big frowny faces about the deplorable state of national security publicly. Conservatives would be frothing with rage and threatening to nuke half a dozen major metropolitan areas. JD Vance would be dick deep in a celebratory couch cushion in between photo-ops where he demanded bloody-fisted retribution.

Another country has no rights to interfere in America.

There's no such thing as "rights" with regard to national sovereignty. Only Might Makes Right. The people of the various states can defend themselves and one another via an international commitment to mutual aid. Or nationalist kingpins can build up military fiefs and raid one another's exposed flanks as opportunity presents. But the idea that any given national leadership is above intervention has never been true.

If anything, its the opposite of true. Country leaders appear to have a prerogative to engage one another - diplomatically or militarily - in pursuit of foreign policy aims. Had Venezuelans been as active in bribing and extorting American politicians as the Saudis or the Israelis, I suspect they'd be in a lot better of a position than they are today.

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[–] Deceptichum@quokk.au 6 points 4 days ago

It also ignores that he clearly did the authority to do it, by virtue of having done it and not being stopped.

Don’t go giving states the authority to do things, and they won’t have any authority to do things.

Authority doesn’t make an act correct.

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[–] olenkoVD@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 points 3 days ago

It should just say "Trump bombed Venezuela", nothing else.

[–] Asfalttikyntaja@sopuli.xyz 22 points 5 days ago (12 children)

A massive protest, I see.

[–] Warl0k3@lemmy.world 50 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago)

Here's the photographer's Flickr account, you can see the protest was in fact quite well attended.

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[–] Gorilladrums@lemmy.world 2 points 3 days ago

Can whatever this is even be called a war?

[–] solidheron@sh.itjust.works 2 points 3 days ago

Damn that's one scary toad-rrorist

[–] Brainsploosh@lemmy.world 9 points 5 days ago (1 children)

As antifa allegedly has strayed into terrorism, and Amphifa seems a little niche, maybe it's time for AnTrumfa?

[–] Warl0k3@lemmy.world 6 points 5 days ago

The label applied is more important than it should be. To that end I've been advocating claiming the term "pro trump" to describe antifa. Something like "Yeah I'm pro Trump. Pro Trump being in prison" or suchlike. Just throw them off their stride a bit or something, would be nice to see their bullshit social media manipulation used against them.

[–] melsaskca@lemmy.ca 8 points 5 days ago (2 children)

Russia invades Ukraine. USSA invades Venezuela. China invades Taiwan?

This is like the end of "The Good, The Bad, and The Ugly". It looks like the rule of law is losing bigly and the rule of force will be our future going forward unless it all gets burned to the ground in a nuclear frenzy. Fuck these deranged power brokers.

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