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[–] Thedogdrinkscoffee@lemmy.ca 16 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago) (1 children)

A: Learning about socialism is not radicalizing.

B: Americans have been propagandized to death, poisioning their minds to believe socialism is abject poverty for everyone but the poor lazy useless eaters. They are on average just stupid enough to believe it without question.

[–] DylanMc6@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 5 days ago (1 children)
  1. If so, then what's radicalizing like?

  2. To be honest, I think the best time the US should've become a socialist country would be during the Great Depression - the economy was going down the toilet and people are waiting to get by, but it's gonna require word-of-mouth, an aversion of the Red Scares and such. The alternate history story "Reds! A Revolutionary Timeline" (wiki here) would probably give you an idea on what would that be like.

[–] Thedogdrinkscoffee@lemmy.ca 4 points 5 days ago (3 children)
  1. The dictionary is your friend.
  2. The best time was in the past. The next best time is tomorrow after a good night's sleep, a nice hot shower and a healthy breakfast.

Word of mouth can't compete with fascist corporate media broadcasting poison 24/7 to idiots. Radio, TV, "news", web content. It's highly orchestrated scientifically optimized propaganda.

[–] DylanMc6@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago) (1 children)

All broadcasting monopolies should be seized by the workers, split into different companies and then collectivized by the workers. Seriously!

EDIT: Oh, and this is my 222nd comment from DBZer0

[–] DylanMc6@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 5 days ago (1 children)

Please explain (for number two)

[–] Thedogdrinkscoffee@lemmy.ca 1 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Well, a good night's sleep is important for your health and well being. A shower if for your hygiene and also smooths over social interactions. A healthy breakfast gives you energy to work hard until your next meal.

[–] DylanMc6@lemmy.dbzer0.com -1 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (1 children)

Yeah I know, but what I mean is is there any reason why you've said it?

[–] Thedogdrinkscoffee@lemmy.ca 1 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Well if you think you're going to implement some degree of socialism poorly rested, hungry and smelly, I don't know what to tell you other than you are making the job harder than it needs to be.

[–] DylanMc6@lemmy.dbzer0.com 0 points 4 days ago

Please explain why

[–] DylanMc6@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 5 days ago

Maybe "reciprocalism", perhaps?

[–] ZiggyTheZygote@lemmy.ca 11 points 5 days ago (1 children)

Most citizens of the US are not educated enough to understand what socialism is. They believe in capitalism.

[–] DylanMc6@lemmy.dbzer0.com 0 points 5 days ago (2 children)

So how do you think we should radicalize them to socialism? We can do a class consciousness platform. It worked for Zohran in New York.

[–] Rhynoplaz@lemmy.world 8 points 5 days ago (3 children)

Give it a catchy new name. Never mention the words socialism, communism, or capitalism. Just say what the movement stands for and see if people agree once the bias is removed.

[–] Drbreen@sh.itjust.works 4 points 5 days ago (1 children)

Maybe they can call it 'Sharing is caring'?

[–] Rhynoplaz@lemmy.world 3 points 5 days ago

Nah, they'll see right through that, maybe something more cynical like "Other people won't get less screwed than you."

[–] ZiggyTheZygote@lemmy.ca 4 points 5 days ago

I've read something of that sort happening, and people love the ideas but once they put 2+2 together they retract and start to hiss at it because the media/leader taught them to react that way to any ideology that is a threat to them.

[–] DylanMc6@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 5 days ago

Maybe "economic populism" or "economic-conscious", perhaps?

[–] ZiggyTheZygote@lemmy.ca 2 points 5 days ago (1 children)

That's a great start, and I wouldn't have seen it happen anywhere else in the US. But socialism is week because it doesn't have the resources like what capitalism has exploited and has turned into fascism, scaring everyone that socialism is bad for their way of life, which if you ask any citizen would tell you that it stinks. I'm still skeptical of Mamdani, because everyone is susceptible to corruption and/or intimidation.

[–] DylanMc6@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 5 days ago (1 children)

What about market socialism? A market economy should be necessary in the transitional stage between capitalism and communism (or a socialist-democratic dictatorship of the proletariat, if you prefer).

[–] ZiggyTheZygote@lemmy.ca 1 points 5 days ago (1 children)

I'll tell you my opinion on this, any ideology (left, center, or right) or philosophy can sound so good and appetizing on paper, but when it comes to people managing it, the chances of corruption and decay are always present and its fate is doomed from the start, even if it goes through a successful phase. Maybe small scale communal markets can work but it's still going to be living under capitalism, which is expensive. Capitalism has more power because it has all the money and the seductions, and like the right said, empathy is weekness, which translates to we don't care about the unfortunate who are suffering. Capitalism has caused so much damage that we need a reset button like human extinction.

[–] DylanMc6@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 5 days ago (1 children)

Are you a social democrat?

[–] ZiggyTheZygote@lemmy.ca 1 points 5 days ago (1 children)
[–] DylanMc6@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 4 days ago (1 children)

What do you think of optimism?

[–] ZiggyTheZygote@lemmy.ca 1 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Hehehe i wish I had it ...

[–] DylanMc6@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 4 days ago

[gives you a huge hug]

[–] birdwing@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

It is not socialism or (free) communism, but fascism and the indoctrination of capitalism that is radical.

[–] jaggedrobotpubes@lemmy.world 0 points 4 days ago

"Radicalize"?

You have a very steep uphill battle ahead of you trying to equate socialism with something extreme, and it's got nothing to do with Lemmy.

[–] Zwuzelmaus@feddit.org -3 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago) (1 children)

Socialism is dead. You need to define new ways and new words for it, if you want to make things better in today's world.

But if you want to restrict it all to just one province of one country, and that is even in the politically uneducated Usa, then you can as well leave away the theory. Just tell them to vote left.

[–] DylanMc6@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 5 days ago (2 children)

Then how are you gonna tell Trump voters to vote left? What did Zohran do that got him the keys to his office as Mayor of New York City?

[–] jjjalljs@ttrpg.network 2 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Zohran had many volunteers knocking on doors and talking to people. He's also charismatic, and focused on concrete actionable things.

It's hard to get people mad about "let's run buses on time".

[–] DylanMc6@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 4 days ago (1 children)

So the way to do that is by going door-to-door about class consciousness?

[–] jjjalljs@ttrpg.network 2 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago)

Honestly, probably yes. People are emotional and a face to face conversation can be a big impact.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Deep_canvassing is one take on it

[–] Zwuzelmaus@feddit.org 2 points 5 days ago

I am not from there. I cannot tell you any "how" answers.