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Nomic, one of the best concepts of a game I've seen (en.wikipedia.org)
submitted 2 years ago by ICastFist@programming.dev to c/gaming@beehaw.org
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cross-posted from: https://programming.dev/post/7647192

Basically, it's a game about making and changing rules, much like actual legislative bodies. Each player proposes a new rule and the other players vote to approve it or not.

Who wins? Whoever reaches the victory condition. What's the victory condition? That'll depend on the rules at the time, which might change in the next turn.

Nomic is a game in which changing the rules is a move. In that respect it differs from almost every other game. The primary activity of Nomic is proposing changes in the rules, debating the wisdom of changing them in that way, voting on the changes, deciding what can and cannot be done afterwards, and doing it. Even this core of the game, of course, can be changed.

— Peter Suber, The Paradox of Self-Amendment

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[–] bh11235@infosec.pub 11 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Back in high school we played a game of this on the occasional Thursday night, as well as one long term game that took months and had its own dedicated wiki. It got pretty surreal pretty quick. The one set day a month you got penalized for each time you used a foreign loanword was brutal.

[–] ICastFist@programming.dev 2 points 2 years ago

The one set day a month you got penalized for each time you used a foreign loanword was brutal.

Sounds like the perfect way to get all your friends rippling with muscles

[–] Alleywurds@kbin.social 11 points 2 years ago

Yeah! Without knowing of Nomic, I designed a TTRPG about gods creating the universe by writing the rules of the game they're playing.

It's kinda like nomic as an RPG. Free here if you'd like to take a peek: https://alleywurds.itch.io/eroding-the-outside-a-game-of-gods

[–] aMockTie@beehaw.org 7 points 2 years ago

This seems super interesting and I’ve never heard of it before. Thanks for sharing!

Is this more of a table top game? I’d be interested to see it as a kind of MMO.

[–] Xariphon@kbin.social 4 points 2 years ago (1 children)

I have wanted to play in a game of this since I first heard about it, but I've never managed to find a group for it.

[–] HotChickenFeet@sopuli.xyz 1 points 2 years ago

I've only just started looking myself, but theres agora online

https://agoranomic.org/index.html (the hamburger menu has a how to play option)

Also: https://blognomic.com/

[–] averyminya@beehaw.org 2 points 2 years ago

That's interesting, Disgaea has a similar mechanic present in its game called the Dark Assembly, where you basically either bribe or kill the senators to make them vote with you.

[–] navigatron@beehaw.org 2 points 2 years ago

The game of Mao begins now.

Even more unusual variants include […] a game which, instead of allowing voting on rules, splits into two sub-games, one with the rule, and one without it.

This sounds insane and delightful

[–] BudgieMania@kbin.social 1 points 2 years ago

This sounds like something that would be played on The Genius, I'm all for it