On Digg there's some drama because someone registered the community “/wallstreetbets,” and the admins took it from him and gave it to one mod of the subreddit “r/wallstreetbets.”

One day later I see this discussion about how Reddit registered trademarks for some high-profile subreddits.

This could be relevant for the Threadiverse.

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[–] cerebralhawks@lemmy.dbzer0.com 118 points 4 days ago (3 children)

Wait, Digg gave the community to a Reddit moderator so Reddit could control the communities with the same name on both platforms? That's wild.

That's also how the corporate side of Reddit works. Someone will register a subreddit, and then a bunch of related ones, so anybody who tries to use any of them has to follow the same set of rules — and if you piss off the wrong person in one, they can ban you from all of them. They can also use their "first" or "official" or even "user count" status to bully smaller subs into redirecting to them. Effectively centralising information.

The Fediverse doesn't work like that. While the Reddit mods who wish to consolidate power across networks might target lemmy.world, they can't get all the instances, and they probably won't try. They'll just go after the big one, or the big two or three. Some instances will flip them the bird, like I imagine db0 won't stand for that shit.

Then you will see instances advertising "free speech" as a feature. The question is which will users flock to? The official one, or the free one? But that's always been the question of Lemmy. You can go on Reddit and toe the line and say paedophiles are people who deserve all the good things in life and keep your account, but if you try to be genuine, they kick you off and make the choice for you.

[–] db0@lemmy.dbzer0.com 66 points 4 days ago (4 children)

Some instances will flip them the bird, like I imagine db0 won't stand for that shit.

Oh I hope someone tries to pull this shit in the flotilla...👹

[–] orbituary@lemmy.dbzer0.com 14 points 4 days ago

Yarr

[–] Deceptichum@quokk.au 11 points 4 days ago

Im trademarking “world”, anyone tries to use it and ill sue you!

[–] NOT_RICK@lemmy.world 4 points 4 days ago (1 children)

in the flotilla...

Is this a snowcrash reference?

[–] db0@lemmy.dbzer0.com 9 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Lol, nah. It's our confederation of anarchist instances

[–] NOT_RICK@lemmy.world 5 points 4 days ago (2 children)

Yours, solarpunk and maybe Blahaj? Sorry to hit you with an impromptu game of 40 questions

[–] Quill7513@slrpnk.net 4 points 3 days ago

i can't help but be pleased that you associate 3 of my favorite instances with eachother! it makes me feel like i'm acting in a group who's putting good things into the world

in addition to those, and anarchist.nexus (which @db0@lemmy.dbzer0.com mentioned), i think quokk.au also belongs (i think they even had a vote to join the flotilla db0 was mentioning, but that they voted no). while these instances are not formally allied via the governance pact of said flotilla, i do find them, and the users on them, to generally have complementary views and stances on the world, how it works, and how it should work.

it's less like a flotilla and more like ships at sea who all hate the royal french armada together. we party at the same ports together, but we're all on different adventures

[–] db0@lemmy.dbzer0.com 8 points 4 days ago

Haha no, it's ours and anarchist.nexus, but we may add more soon

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[–] homes@piefed.world 29 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (2 children)

Someone will register a subreddit, and then a bunch of related ones, so anybody who tries to use any of them has to follow the same set of rules — and if you piss off the wrong person in one, they can ban you from all of them.

This definitely happens here on Lemme, too. There are asshole mods, here who register a ton of communities, and getting banned from one of them instantly means you’re banned from all of them. Possibly even the entire instance. I’ve seen this in the mod logs where someone has a relatively innocuous comment removed just because the mod disagrees with them, then they are suddenly banned from both that community and 10 or 12 other communities. All run by the same moderator.

If you think you escaped asshole mods just because you’re switched over here to Lemmy, think again.

From StumbleUpon to fark to digg to Reddit to Lemmy… Asshole, power-tripping mods are everywhere and aren’t going away.

[–] Coastal_Explorer@feddit.online 27 points 4 days ago (43 children)

Not just mods, but sometimes even instance Admins. This is one of the main reasons why so many left .ml

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[–] db0@lemmy.dbzer0.com 18 points 4 days ago (2 children)

. I’ve seen this in the mod logs where someone has a relatively innocuous comment removed just because the mod disagrees with them, then they are suddenly banned from both that community and 10 or 12 other communities. All run by the same moderator.

!yepowertrippinbastards@lemmy.dbzer0.com

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[–] OpenStars@piefed.social 7 points 4 days ago (1 children)

The Fediverse doesn’t work like that

Maybe Mastodon does not, but Lemmy, in particular lemmy.ml, works more like that than you realize. e.g. a change is soon going to give lemmy.ml veto power in what communities are allowed to be acknowledged as existing to new instances, which is baked right into the code and there is no way to change it. A third-party listing could have been used instead but... no, this is rather much more on-brand for the Lemmy developers to have chosen.

So it is not a binary "Reddit is authoritarian whereas the Fediverse is not", but rather we all can easily fall prey to authoritarianism, unless we fight against it.

[–] pivot_root@lemmy.world 6 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (21 children)

Your source is 3 months old and doesn't back up your claims.

what does “hardcode lemmy.ml as a source to pre-fetch popular communities” mean in practice.

It is an attempt to pre-populate new instances with some popular communities which is seen as a way to improve discoverability. I find the general concept of using “popularity” for that to be somewhat problematic, but the main issue I have with the actual implementation is that it uses lemmy.ml as the source of truth for that, and there is no way to change that*.

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[–] ramble81@lemmy.zip 35 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Realistically, won’t matter for us for a few reasons:

We’re small. As much as I like this place and want to see it succeed, we have a fraction of the MAUs that they do.
Given the federated nature, it’s pretty much impossible to police. It’s the same as with the age verification checks for social media and porn, you really can’t do much because you could be federated to another instance that passes it along, or is outside of the jurisdiction
They could go after one instance, but there’s no way they could go after thousands of instances, each which could create the same community name.

So legally could they try to do something? Yes. Realistically no as the size is too small and burden too high.

[–] PeriodicallyPedantic@lemmy.ca 5 points 4 days ago

They only have to make an example of a few to discourage the rest.

The only real safety is with the instances hosted and run in locations difficult for American companies to pursue legal action

[–] foggy@lemmy.world 41 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (2 children)

Oh boy. Careful what you wish for, reddit.

Someone tell the creator of Girls Gone Wild. Might be time for him to sue. He could make all kinds of legal claims.

Find one girl who submitted nudes to gonewild in 2008 to say she legitimately believed her nudes were going to the Girls Gone Wild agency.

Brand confusion, customer deception, lack of proper consent. They could get mega fucked.

[–] Chozo@fedia.io 13 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Someone tell the creator of Girls Gone Wild.

I don't think Joe Francis is going to be the good guy in this scenario.

[–] foggy@lemmy.world 14 points 4 days ago

I was just using it as an example.

Anything with a trade ark or copyright.

With this move, every company with a subreddit should be saying "all your mods are out. Here's our guys. We run our subreddit now, not you."

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[–] termaxima@slrpnk.net 5 points 3 days ago

This is why we federate. Is your community name taken by people you don't like or agree with ? Just make your own on another server !

[–] fubarx@lemmy.world 12 points 4 days ago

🍿🍿🍿

[–] Stefan_S_from_H@piefed.zip 12 points 4 days ago (1 children)

See https://uspto.report/company/Reddit-Inc

[–] otter@lemmy.ca 16 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (2 children)

Predictions

Showerthoughts

I had no idea Reddit invented having deep thoughts in the shower, or making predictions

🙄

Am I the Asshole?

Yea they can keep that one

[–] OpenStars@piefed.social 8 points 4 days ago

Reddit is most certainly the asshole of the internet

... hrm, so what does that make X? Would that be the colon, or the already eXcreted eXcrement?

[–] Scrollone@feddit.it 2 points 3 days ago

Reddit didn't invent deep thoughts, but that's not how trademarks work.

[–] silentjohn@lemmy.ml 9 points 4 days ago

Digg fucking sucks. It's just worse reddit with AI bullshit.

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