silentjohn
The one that has had multiple hacks. I'm good mate.
Look, you’re doing it!
Addressing your points from a perspective of an ML?
That’s the whatabout campism it is refering to!
Interesting. You never mentioned "whataboutism" in your "tankie" description, and you were allowed to insert whatever convenient definition you saw fit. I can see the goalposts are moving now that I've addressed your original points directly. Convenient that we're never allowed to explain our position, lest the term "tankie" be thrown at us and summarily hand wave away anything we say.
Just introducing what a tankie means to regular people
Again, since I'm usually the one the term is being used against, I think I know what most "regular" people think the term means: which is usually just broadly anti-ML and anti-any-established-socialist-state because they're [ignorantly and incorrectly] viewed as "Authoritarian".
I think we've exhausted this debate here.
people who are extremely anti US
The US has committed way more atrocities than either of those countries you listed. We literally just kidnapped a democratically elected leader without any due process a few months ago and everybody just plum forgot about it. We've started countless wars. We still have Guantanamo Bay operating. We orchestrated the genocide of millions via the Jakarta Method. We sanction and embargo countries with the EXPLICIT purpose (as admitted by the CIA) of inflicting as much human misery on the populace as possible. Our history with genocide of Natives, slavery, jim crowe, prison slavery ... I'm sorry but the USA fucking sucks. I say that as a citizen who thinks we deserve better. The world deserves better. If that makes me a "tankie" ... so be it. I will continue to fight for what's right.
to the point that they choose to ignore or excuse all the crimes against humanity caused by other Imperialistic nations. Ex. Russia, China
Russia ... ehh, I always argue that most Communists, because we are anti-imperialist, can see the reasons for Russia doing what Russia is doing, which is broadly reacting to NATO expansion. What I mean is, we can acknowledge how problematic Western Imperialism and NATO expansion close to Russia (or anywhere, really...) is. Nobody is really pro-Putin, very few. He's a capitalist. We don't like Capitalists.
It's like the Cuban Missile Crisis. It's always framed as "big, bad, and evil USSR puts nukes in Cuba because they're big, bad, and evil!". Nevermind that the US put nukes in Italy and Turkiye first, and rejected any peace talks with USSR. We can see the nuance and understand why Russia is doing Russia things.
As far as China ... so many sinophobic arguments are easily debunked.
term has another meaning. You shouldn’t ignore it
I've been called a "tankie" far more than I'd like, I'm well aware of the meaning levied at me by ignorant people.
Not sure if you're referring to me, but I'm a card-carrying Communist and I'd hardly consider getting fed Western propaganda from a Lemmy Lib as "getting owned". I've already blocked him and moved on with my life...
I ain't reading all that. Free Palestine.
especially those who support or defend acts of repression by such regimes, their allies, or deny the occurrence of the events thereof.
Who defines "acts of repression"? Capitalists? Western Imperialists who commit acts of repression daily? It's not a good faith argument. Many of the "acts of repression" usually listed [by western media, western/capitalist countries] can almost always be debunked or explained with nuance. For example the comment by the other user that "Xi is literal dictator" ... I can't even take this comment seriously.
It’s only ‘ignorant and combative’ in the same way that people call right-wing authoritarianism fascism
It's ignorant and combative because it hand waves away all successful socialist states (China, Cuba, etc) without any nuance.
Not to mention socialism isn’t apart of the meaning at all as you’ve described it.
Socialism and Communism are one in the in the same according to Marx. As we use the terms today, from actual Socialists, is that Socialism is a beginning, transitory state before full Communism. This is the general agreed upon consensus at a high level. Among non-Socialists or Liberals, Socialism is usually interpreted as a "safer, more desirable, version of Communism", whatever that means. As such, using the the term "tankie" insults Socialists and Communists alike, as we're all working towards the same goal.
I also find it funny that your source for the meaning of tankie is from lemmy.ml
Where was I supposed to find a succinct rebuttal to this other than the people against whom the term is used? Wikipedia? Fox News? Where? Talk about bias...
It would be like if I corrected someone on the meaning of the term “Jew” by sourcing Mein Kampf.
False equivalence and you know it.
ad hominem.
That is not at all how it's used.
Myth: Communism and Fascism are the Same
Fascism upholds capitalist hierarchies (race, class, gender); communism seeks to abolish them
Fascism arises from capitalist decay to protect ruling-class interests, while communism opposes capitalism.
Historical examples (Franco, Hitler) show fascists collaborating with capitalists, not communists, who were among the first to be jailed/killed.
"tankie leftist" is a meaningless term and "tankie" is only used as a pejorative against socialists/communists.. It's ignorant and combative language. I'm completely unsurprised that you are downvoted for that.
Great game with Linux version on steam
cross-posted from: https://lemmy.ml/post/41348163
Having played Alwa's Legacy first, I did not expect this ending! Great game, although I like the sequel better ☺️
Wait, ya'll are paying for Plex??