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[–] sns@lemmy.dbzer0.com 131 points 3 days ago (13 children)

When this all crashes to the ground it's going to be ugly.

[–] Pechente@feddit.org 81 points 3 days ago (5 children)

Can’t happen soon enough. Few people want AI and now it will fuck over a bunch of people very directly. No idea how long the investors can keep inflating this bubble now.

[–] U7826391786239@lemmy.zip 49 points 3 days ago (1 children)

the problem is that governments want AI for their surveillance bullshit, especially FSA. they will never let any of these companies fail, and in fact will have no problem blowing $Xbillion of taxpayer money to bail them out

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[–] sorghum@sh.itjust.works 25 points 3 days ago (5 children)

Local and self controled AI has some really cool applications. When I can afford it, replacing my home security cameras with something that stays local and not sent to the cloud is on my list of things to do. When I do that having a local AI do image recognition and tying it into my home assistant setup will be a cool project.

[–] floofloof@lemmy.ca 28 points 3 days ago (4 children)

Yeah you need hardware for that. They're making it so we can't get hardware and we can't self-host.

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[–] phx@lemmy.world 14 points 3 days ago (1 children)

I haven't yet seen where use of AI hasn't made things worse.

  • Agents: Every instance of AI for "customer service" I've run into basically just closed cases for invalid reasons, spouted bullshit, and was used to block interacting with a real human, trapping users in infinite loops (thanks eBay) or disconnecting on them (thanks PayPal)

  • Security: M365 seems to be relying heavily on this now, which means that the same phishing email which was successfully blocked last week will randomly get through a few times this week for no apparent reason

*Coding: sometimes useful, but also points to do stuff like reference functions that don't actually exist in the API/language being used

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[–] 0x0@lemmy.zip 13 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Big brands already said Fuck you consumer, we're gonna sell to the big boys.
It only saddens me that when the AI bubble bursts people will still buy stuff from the likes of Micron when they start supplying the plebes again.

[–] ksh@aussie.zone 3 points 2 days ago

Don’t bank on the bubble bursting. The real customers big paying customers are not retail but governments who would like live fine tuned summaries of all their citizens. AI is a dual use technology.

[–] boaratio@lemmy.world 58 points 3 days ago (2 children)

It's not a shortage, it's billionaires hoarding the existing supply.

[–] Virtvirt588@lemmy.world 12 points 2 days ago (1 children)
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[–] Lucidlethargy@sh.itjust.works 30 points 2 days ago
[–] NewNewAugustEast@lemmy.zip 3 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

And nobody cares enough to do anything about, not even the consumers. Meta is building a new AI and data facility larger than disney land. They have the money thanks to face book and instagram.

But you tell people, "hey if you care maybe do the simplest thing and quit using those products", and all you get is push back. Even here on Lemmy. They would rather their lives be worse than take the slightest inconvenience.

[–] jivandabeast@lemmy.browntown.dev 2 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Lemmy has, what, like 70k MAUs? If everyone here stopped using these platforms (many of which im sure already use them very minimally) it wouldn't be a drop in the bucket of big techs user base.

[–] NewNewAugustEast@lemmy.zip 2 points 1 day ago (1 children)

My point was that you would think that Lemmy users of all people would at least be more open to dropping the big platforms. If most of the users here are pushing back, then we really are fucked.

Yeah true, i do think it's more grey than that though.

For example, i don't really love AI but i have to use it at work for my metrics because management wants to see utilization of it. So, there's no possible way for me to avoid it entirely, i might as well use it on occasion for stuff outside of work at this point because im already a user whether I like it or not

[–] NavySqueal@lemmy.world 59 points 3 days ago

Damn so we really aren't always going to have calculators :'(

[–] phoenixz@lemmy.ca 27 points 3 days ago (10 children)

Yeah, so this is the part where the market regulates itself? Y'know, the part where ultra billionaires just dump money by the boatloads to buy up stuff that everyone needs?

Capitalism will ONLY work if we put hard caps on how much wealth a single person can hoard. Billionaires shouldn't exist. Millionaires shouldn't exist. There is no need for them and there is no human right somewhere that says that you really van become one.

Any wealth over 1 million should be taxed 100%, doesn't matter the country.

With that, we can say goodbye to hundreds of problems that plague the world, including this one

[–] Ilovethebomb@sh.itjust.works 34 points 3 days ago (6 children)

This platform is so incredibly out of touch with reality, especially the more left leaning side of things.

A millionaire these days just means you've paid off your mortgage and have a decent amount put away for retirement.

[–] ScientifficDoggo@lemmy.zip 18 points 3 days ago (5 children)

I only half agree with this assessment. Most million dollar homes are million dollar homes due to billionaires and firms poaching housing from actual families and driving up prices.

Idk WHERE we draw the line, but I absolutely say we start culling from the top and see where we land.

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[–] Bronzebeard@lemmy.zip 5 points 2 days ago (2 children)

Any wealth over 1 million

So you don't understand the value of money, got it. This isn't even a decent retirement anymore. And that's if it's all invested assets. Not even including the absurdity of housing values these days. You can only pull 35-40k from that without hitting the principal.

You can reach 1 million in assets over a decade or so as a middle class worker.

Stop drawing your lines in the sand through your fellow workers! You kill any support you might have with this idiotic crab in a bucket mentality.

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[–] anon_8675309@lemmy.world 14 points 3 days ago (3 children)

A million ain’t what it used to be. You want to retire so you need to invest. You don’t want to pass laws that make that impossible.

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[–] RamRabbit@lemmy.world 10 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (1 children)

Any middle-class person who puts their mind to it will become a millionaire. It involves living below your means, not buying cars constantly, and investing your money for decades. I can't stress enough how big of a difference those things make.

A huge portion of retirees are millionaires because they were responsible and didn't blow all their money.

Millionaires shouldn’t exist.

Why would you want responsible, middle-class retirees to blow their money instead? Why would you force them into a situation where they have to rely on others in their retirement rather than living comfortably off their own hard work?

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[–] captain_aggravated@sh.itjust.works 18 points 3 days ago (4 children)

...What forces defend these datacenters? Could a platoon of motivated civilians armed with pump action shotguns carry all the RAM out of one?

[–] theparadox@lemmy.world 37 points 3 days ago (14 children)

They use a different kind of RAM.

It's the capacity to make RAM and the materials required to make RAM that is going to datacenters.

[–] bold_atlas@lemmy.world 9 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

They use a different kind of RAM.

I probably got an adapter lying around somewhere

[–] pigup@lemmy.world 10 points 2 days ago (1 children)

What's more is they use HBM RAM, which is very complicated to build and has a much lower yield than the much-cheaper-to-make consumer ram.

So, not only are they dedicating all of their resources to billionaire assholes with fantasies of mind control over the masses, but they're also wasting much more materials and energy to make this stupid ram.

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[–] forrgott@lemmy.zip 38 points 3 days ago (2 children)

Watch this not ever really even touch the mobile phone market. The only computer they want you to have access to is the one they fully control...

[–] sorghum@sh.itjust.works 21 points 3 days ago

Might want to keep an eye on !linuxphones@lemmy.ca. It's time we take back control of that computing sector

[–] gdog05@lemmy.world 35 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Data centers will consume..

No, data centers that are slated to be built say they'll consume. If they don't get built because they run out of funding or the bubble bursts, then they won't consume. They're trying really fucking hard to make fetch happen.

[–] SnotFlickerman@lemmy.blahaj.zone 19 points 3 days ago (1 children)

They're trying really fucking hard to make fetch happen.

Which is dumb because neofetch, fastfetch, hyfetch, and uwufetch all already exist!

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[–] tomiant@piefed.social 16 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Hold on while I use AI to create an image of a dog in a funny hat!

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[–] HertzDentalBar@lemmy.blahaj.zone 14 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Only good LLM is a deleted LLM, same goes for capitalists.

[–] Bababasti@feddit.org 9 points 2 days ago
rm -rf capitalism/
[–] dylanmorgan@slrpnk.net 12 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Except there are zero contracts in place to actually build those data centers, nor is there enough power generated to run them. I really wish tech journalists would do the background to determine if what these documented liars are saying is even possible, never mind likely.

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[–] DylanMc6@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 2 days ago

We need a Breaking Bad-type scenario with memory chips.

Just a heads up. 91 billion in data centers is held up by local politics. Won’t be built. So expect this to soften the Ai market.

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