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Can we all stop the in-fighting for a minute and realise how awesome the platform we are on is?

We are forming communities on the realized image of the internet that we were told we would have back in the 80s and 90s.

You can make your own home on the web and have your own niche community, not owned by any corporation, while still being connected to the wider internet.

This feels like something out of a sci-fi movie.

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[–] Track_Shovel@slrpnk.net 59 points 2 years ago (5 children)
[–] darkmatterstyx@lemmy.fmhy.ml 32 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

I'm guessing they were referring to the defederation issues that came up.

[–] crazyminner@sh.itjust.works 5 points 2 years ago (2 children)

Yeah mostly this. Also there seems to be some friction between the old guard and the Fledditors.

[–] vamp07@lemm.ee 4 points 2 years ago

I think in a federated approach you’re always going to have disagreements among the parties that have federated. The beauty of a federated approach is that you have options. You can always just move your association to a different instance and in that way nobody ever controls the whole thing. I would also say that, for the most part, these disagreements are made out to be a much bigger deal than they really are.

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[–] Greg@lemmy.ca 18 points 2 years ago

No you shut up!

[–] june@lemmy.world 9 points 2 years ago

I’m wondering the same

[–] BendyLemmy@lemmy.ml 7 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

🥊

You taking to me? Or chewing a brick???

'Coz you gonna lose your teeth eitherway.

[–] barrett9h@lemmy.one 6 points 2 years ago

(ง'̀-'́)ง

[–] mindfultameprism@lemmy.one 34 points 2 years ago (5 children)

This place is fantastic. I'm still working on convincing my husband that it's going to take the place of Reddit but I'll wear him down. He thinks because a lot of the posts only have a few comments and 20 or so up votes, it's not a valid community. I think it's just getting started and it's exciting to be here early.

[–] hemmes@vlemmy.net 26 points 2 years ago (1 children)
[–] WheeGeetheCat@sh.itjust.works 5 points 2 years ago

we're now at 500 upvotes and a custom meme!

@mindfultameprison 's husband: ARE YOU NOT ENTERTAINED?

[–] Thurgo@lemm.ee 11 points 2 years ago (2 children)

I'm really enjoying the relative lack of content and what feels like an absence of astroturfing or bot content and votes. Way less dillholes and the interactions I see are generally meaningful and kind. I'm slowly building my subscription list of communities and can check in on top posts for the day in the morning and evening. I really felt a compulsion to read most of the posts for the day on my few favorite subreddits (mostly picture based so lots of cool shit to look at and get inspired by). I have those communities set up in an RSS feed for when I'm looking to scroll through stuff.

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[–] rmspc@lemmy.ml 8 points 2 years ago

Any community is a valid community, if there's 20 upvotes that's still 20 people who saw, enjoyed, and gave it some time, and that matters on the modern internet where there's a bit more gatekeeping than usual!

[–] someguy3@lemmy.ca 8 points 2 years ago (1 children)

I remember Reddit days when 5k upvotes was off the charts.

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[–] adespoton@lemmy.ca 32 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Not sure where you’re hanging out that you’re seeing infighting.

Also, I’ve been living in the Internet you describe since 1990. All it takes is intentionally saying no to the corporate offerings; there have been self-hosted and crowd-hosted communities the entire time.

Every once in a while I miss Fidonet though.

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[–] nick@campfyre.nickwebster.dev 21 points 2 years ago

The software is a little clunky but this is everything I dreamed of when I got half way through making a peer-to-peer reddit clone in 2015 and gave up lol

[–] Coeus@coeus.sbs 21 points 2 years ago (1 children)

It's nice isn't it? I feel like if we'll evolve quickly

[–] xektor17@lemmy.world 6 points 2 years ago

I’m all in for this ride! 🙌

[–] Gentoo1337@sh.itjust.works 20 points 2 years ago (3 children)

In-fighting? What did i miss? lmao

[–] fugepe@lemmy.ml 17 points 2 years ago (1 children)
[–] flameguy21@lemmy.world 5 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

let's commit war crimes

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[–] twhite@lemmy.ml 15 points 2 years ago (1 children)

The fact that everything is just "working" feels great!

Apps like Jerboa have made it so seemless to transition from deaddit.

Looking forward to the upcoming features that make the communities easier to join for the layperson.

Cheers!

[–] BastingChemina@slrpnk.net 14 points 2 years ago

I'm honestly really impressed by the fact that it is just working.

In les than a month Lemmy saw an exponential growth and from my point of view it was always very smooth. It was a bit slow from time to time but knowing that all of that is just running on a bunch of servers puts together by few passionate relying on donations or just their personal resources.

[–] BendyLemmy@lemmy.ml 15 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

Methinks you have been so busy trying to fight that you didn't realise that nobody else is fighting.

However, there's a slight issue with 'still being connected to the wider internet' as I don't see results for Lemmy content appearing in my searches the way Reddit content comes up.

So it feels rather like a sci-fi movie when you've had too many mushrooms - kind of bright, but a bit confused...

However, it does help focus that idea that - if we are going to have interesting discussions and create information which is archived - it shouldn't be inside Reddit, and it should be accessible by search.

So Lemmy is half way there...

[–] Ramin_HAL9001@lemmy.ml 15 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (4 children)

We are forming communities on the realized image of the internet that we were told we would have back in the 80s and 90s.

Exactly! Back in the 80s, tech enthusiasts would run their own dial-up message boards in their homes. The Fediverse is like that, but with all the benefits of modern technology. Anyone can run their own instance if they have a decent internet connection (usually fiber). But it is more than just message boards: they can run Lemmy, Mastodon, Wordpress, and even things like Tor and NextCloud, and instantly contribute their computing resources to the larger Fediverse community.

[–] bastetfurry@mastodon.social 5 points 2 years ago (1 children)

@Ramin_HAL9001 @crazyminner
To add to that, it became dirt cheap to get hosting. Like under a pack of cigarettes per month cheap.
Did a little analysis over on my blog going over the shoestring methods for those interested: https://blog.lionscade.de/show/7

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[–] sparky@lemmy.federate.cc 14 points 2 years ago (3 children)

Feels almost like going back in time, to the earlier days of the net. IRC, XMPP, Usenet… all distributed.

[–] Anonymousclimber@lemm.ee 4 points 2 years ago

Usenet is distributed. If you don’t mirror bins it’s not impossible to run your own “federated” server.

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[–] pattmayne@sh.itjust.works 13 points 2 years ago (3 children)

I agree.

BUT some degree of infighting means we're alive and engaged with the platform. I think it's healthy infighting.

[–] Ramin_HAL9001@lemmy.ml 9 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

Exactly. No human community exists without infighting. Infighting is not a good thing, but it is a good sign -- a sign of growth.

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[–] ekZeno@lemmy.ca 10 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

No wait! I've just moved in! I missed all the fight!

I mean... can't you just do a little??? 🥺

[–] hschen@sopuli.xyz 10 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Just wait a few days till some people overreact to something and call for defederating an entire instance due to it

[–] Klear@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago

Wouldn't be an online community if there wasn't ~~occasional~~ constant infighting.

[–] higante@lemmy.world 10 points 2 years ago

It's only infighting because we're all members of a living community. Other wise it's just fighting

[–] sauna7843@lemmy.ml 8 points 2 years ago

It has been quite emotional to see this community grow! I was a lurker here when Lemmy only had hundreds of users and to see such a vibrant and diverse set of instances form has been wonderful! I hope to see this platform returning some of the nostalgia from the Golden Age of the Internet. An internet for fun!

[–] JargonWagon@lemmy.world 7 points 2 years ago (2 children)

I keep telling my wife how awesome the Fediverse is. She doesn't share the same sentiment I do, but she also doesn't care about Reddit. I'll win her over one day.

[–] WheeGeetheCat@sh.itjust.works 3 points 2 years ago

we just need to find her brand of community and have you show her a few posts a day. Whats she into - succulents? scary stories? funny videos? CATS?

we can do this

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[–] IWriteDaCode@programming.dev 7 points 2 years ago

Fediverse is old-school internet! With some twists of course, but having new school social media in a decentralized way is great. The good & bad thing is there's a higher filter for getting on, so people here are nerdy and techy, but most 'normals' might not take the time.

[–] loaf@sh.itjust.works 6 points 2 years ago

I definitely prefer it here over Reddit. It feels more free here.

[–] xektor17@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago (2 children)

If you guys haven’t yet, you should try the Memmy app for iOS! It is amazing!

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[–] drcabbage@lemmy.ml 3 points 2 years ago

Them sounds like fighting words! Put up your jibblies!

[–] KuroJ@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago

I’m enjoying the ride. Love it here!

[–] kn0wmad1c@programming.dev 2 points 2 years ago (1 children)

There's been infighting? Why?

[–] Chais@sh.itjust.works 6 points 2 years ago (4 children)

What I've seen was Nazis doing Nazi things and some people not reacting as decidedly antifascist as other people would have liked.

[–] DaleGribble88@programming.dev 6 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

Meanwhile, over on my home instance, I have been pleasantly shocked by the near absolute lack of nazis.

[–] kn0wmad1c@programming.dev 6 points 2 years ago (1 children)

I, for one, welcome the lack of nazis

[–] DaleGribble88@programming.dev 3 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

Ditto! Shout out to @Ategon@programming.dev for helping keep our instance nazi-free

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