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[–] sharkfucker420@lemmy.ml 40 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Fascinating that Duolingo tries to teach Navajo. The language is incredibly tonal and with sounds not native to most languages. I imagine it's incredibly difficult to teach through an online service

[–] ApathyTree@lemmy.dbzer0.com 7 points 10 months ago

Idk how duolinguo works (at all), but if the app can play the sounds for you and judge on your pronunciation, that would be quite enough to do the job. If it can handle mandarin (idk if it can) than any tonal based language is fair game.

I would think any decent speech to text could do a decent job determining pronunciation, if there isn’t a dedicated thing for that.. either it registers or it gets garble and you try again.

[–] smuuthbrane@sh.itjust.works 28 points 10 months ago (2 children)

I almost found a way to get university credit for learning Klingon. My downfall was that the Klingon Language Institute was not an "accredited" learning institution. I wonder if that's changed yet…

[–] Klear@sh.itjust.works 8 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Try the Khan Academy next time.

[–] Akasazh@feddit.nl 5 points 10 months ago
[–] name_NULL111653@pawb.social 8 points 10 months ago

Duolingo probably has an accreditation programme by now, considering most high schools use it.

[–] crashoverride@lemmy.world 26 points 10 months ago (1 children)

High Valerian also doesn't have all the ingredients to become an actual language. All I did was translate words in sentences into the language for the show, but Klingon, it is an actual language and has been developed enough that you can call it a language

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[–] rab@lemmy.ca 25 points 10 months ago (1 children)

I'm waiting for them to add Icelandic

[–] dimath@ttrpg.network 24 points 10 months ago (3 children)

But still no European Portuguese 😠

[–] library_napper@monyet.cc 12 points 10 months ago

Prolly more people who want to learn elvish than European Portuguese. Oh, leaderboards

[–] 7of9@startrek.website 9 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Last time I looked it still did a weird mix of American and European Spanish, too

[–] Catoblepas@lemmy.blahaj.zone 10 points 10 months ago (1 children)

It had me pick Latin American or Castilian Spanish when I started using Duolingo, I couldn’t tell you exactly how accurate it was though.

[–] 7of9@startrek.website 4 points 10 months ago (2 children)

When was that? Last time I tried it was a couple of years ago.

As for the difference, outside of Spain the conjugation of Vosotros (you, plural) isn't used, but speaking to strangers is much more formal. Also, there's a lot of vocabulary differences which can be confusing for non-native speakers.

Good luck with your learning, it's a great language :-)

[–] Stoney_Logica1@lemmy.world 4 points 10 months ago (1 children)

As somebody who doesn't naively speak Latin American Spanish but was exposed to it a lot growing up, the "th" sound for some words with "c" (like "gracias") in Castilian Spanish really disturbs me. It sounds like everybody has a lisp.

[–] 7of9@startrek.website 2 points 10 months ago

It is a lisp, albeit on purpose ... to further confuse things in parts of Spain with different languages the shared words don't necessarily have that lisp!

[–] Catoblepas@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 points 10 months ago (1 children)

About two years ago for me as well, they might have rolled it out shortly after you tried or maybe I was part of some A/B testing or something. But the setting seems to be saved because I’m never given exercises with vosotros in them.

¡Gracias! Vivo en California, así que hay mucha gente para practicar hablando conmigo, pero estoy tímido y practico solo con Duolingo por ahora.

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[–] BlessedDog@lemmy.ml 4 points 10 months ago (2 children)

Wtf is European Portuguese, Portugal is in Europe.

[–] my_hat_stinks@programming.dev 12 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Wtf is British English, England is in Britain.

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[–] Kodemystic@lemmy.kodemystic.dev 10 points 10 months ago (2 children)

There's brazilian Portuguese

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[–] sagrotan@lemmy.world 22 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Language learning apps work only to give you an overview over a language, to look if a language is worth learning. You really wanna learn? Search for someone who's mother tongue it is in your vicinity and contact him. You'll be surprised, how much fun that'll be, your friendly Klingon in the neighborhood, crashing your door in at 3 a.m., hellish drunk, just to show you his new Gagh recipe, or you'll find yourself as a slave in the fictional world of an obese old creep. Learning new languages is awesome, right?

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[–] ReiRose@lemmy.world 15 points 10 months ago (2 children)

Anyone know a good place to learn Farsi (Persian). Duolingo doesn't have it yet, if ever

[–] Aldn@lemmy.world 6 points 10 months ago

It's a real shame duolingo doesn't have Farsi (or none of the other apps I'm routinely using, for that matter). Let's hope it becomes a thing sooner than later

[–] GhostMatter@lemmy.ca 5 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

I used Mondly fully free a few years ago. It was good. I don't know how it is now.

I also used Anki flashcards.

[–] humorlessrepost@lemmy.world 14 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Still more native speakers than Navajo.

[–] chaogomu@kbin.social 28 points 10 months ago (2 children)

That's what multiple genocides get you. A language rated as Vulnerable in UNESCO.

Still, there are about 170,000 people who speak Navajo, with about 8000 who only speak Navajo.

[–] BulbasaurBabu@lemmings.world 6 points 10 months ago

And there are only 2000 fluent speakers of Hawaiian, let's go colonialism!

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[–] nutsack@lemmy.world 14 points 10 months ago (1 children)

i wish they would spend more time fixing vietnamese instead of shit like this

[–] original2@lemmy.world 3 points 10 months ago

Just get a cracked version of lingodeer

[–] Rambomst@lemmy.world 10 points 10 months ago (2 children)

Does anyone happen to know of an app or site that is good for learning Tagalog?

[–] WhistlingGhost@lemmy.world 6 points 10 months ago (1 children)

The app Tandem (Language Exchange) has Tagalog as an option! It's a pretty cool app. It connects you to native speakers so that they can have conversations with you and help you learn your chosen language.

[–] Rambomst@lemmy.world 3 points 10 months ago

Thanks. I will check it out.

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[–] smuuthbrane@sh.itjust.works 7 points 10 months ago (1 children)

I'm still hoping for a course in Mando'a.

[–] Mirshe@lemmy.world 5 points 10 months ago (1 children)

I'm unsure if there's enough words for it to count as a full spoken language yet.

[–] smuuthbrane@sh.itjust.works 3 points 10 months ago

That's too bad. From some.of.the books it seemed to be pretty close.

[–] draedron@lemmyhub.com 4 points 10 months ago

Can I put it on my resume?

[–] Voyajer@lemmy.world 4 points 10 months ago

Let me know when they get Phyrexian

[–] Resol@lemmy.world 3 points 10 months ago

I can't find Doolish anywhere on the list though.

Oh wait, that language doesn't exist.

[–] GlitchyDigiBun@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 10 months ago

But does it do Mando'A?

[–] niktemadur@lemmy.world 3 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Many asteroids and Kuiper Belt objects discovered by the Keck telescope, on the big island, have been given Hawaiian names, adding to the very few words I knew before, like aloha, mahalo, pahoa'hoa and a'a, the last two being types of lava, either runny or crumbly.

[–] BulbasaurBabu@lemmings.world 4 points 10 months ago

‘Okina only precede vowels and I think you're confused about pahoahoa, it's pahoehoe. Good job on a‘a, though!

[–] lseif@sopuli.xyz 2 points 10 months ago

and Esperanto 💚 lernu nun!

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