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[–] BrikoX@lemmy.zip 51 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (2 children)

Open source your code and then you will have a leg to stand on about trust. Right now it's just "trust me bro" when you have proven record of being lying piece of shit.

[–] unexposedhazard@discuss.tchncs.de 21 points 3 months ago (1 children)

That wouldnt even help much. The issue is them being in control of the servers and that its not e2ee. Even if the client is open source, they still get all the data and control.

[–] BrikoX@lemmy.zip 14 points 3 months ago (1 children)

If their claims are true then it would help. They claim that they process everything locally and only sends the check to the server. But again, there is literally no reason to trust any word they say without being able to verify it ourselves. Proprietary systems should never be used for this.

Also their liability avoidance doesn't inspire confidence. Discord outsources the liability to k-ID and k-ID outsourced the liability to Privately.

[–] unexposedhazard@discuss.tchncs.de 6 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (1 children)

Im talking about message content, images, contact networks, behavioural patterns, etc.

As long as its not e2ee all that can be inferred from just the serverside data even if the client sends only whats necessary. And the last two even if it were e2ee.

This whole ID thing is just the tip of the iceberg. People are just blind to all the spying that was already happening without them noticing.

[–] BrikoX@lemmy.zip 7 points 3 months ago (1 children)

That goes without question, but my comment was directed at ID services, not Discord itself.

Yeah i realized that now :)

Bro has a cold. 

"Trust be bro"

[–] hperrin@lemmy.ca 21 points 3 months ago (1 children)

I’m in the process of switching my two communities to Matrix. It’s not bad from a user point of view, but running your own server is such an enormous pain in the ass. Like, way harder than it should be.

[–] clay_pidgin@sh.itjust.works 4 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (2 children)

You mean actually hosting a matrix server, like a Docker instance or something, or do you mean having a room (channel? Topic?) on a public matrix server?

I've never done either. Is it even possible to have a private room on a public server?

[–] tar@lemmy.zip 8 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Is it even possible to have a private room on a public server?

certainly

[–] clay_pidgin@sh.itjust.works 4 points 3 months ago

Thanks, I've never tried to create a room.

[–] hperrin@lemmy.ca 5 points 3 months ago (2 children)

I mean actually hosting a Matrix server. Like, on my own hardware. It’s very difficult to set up. Especially if you want audio/video.

[–] clay_pidgin@sh.itjust.works 3 points 3 months ago

Thank you for the reply. I'm sorry to hear it! You wouldn't THINK it'd be that hard ...

[–] Carrot@lemmy.today 3 points 3 months ago

I've been struggling to accomplish this, and I'm familiar with self hosting. It's brutal. But now that discord has shit the bed (even more) I think I can finally convince my friends to move to it, so I'm taking another crack at a matrix/element server

[–] Drinvictus@discuss.tchncs.de 19 points 3 months ago

that new CEO doesn't waste time

[–] Sidhean@piefed.social 10 points 3 months ago (4 children)

I'm checking out Stoat, and its giving me infinite captchas. Its not fake or something, right?

[–] mintiefresh@piefed.ca 13 points 3 months ago (1 children)

I have used Stoat for awhile. It works. I think they've been bombarded with new signups so it's kind of taking their system down. But hopefully they get back up and running. It's a great opportunity for them right now.

[–] Sidhean@piefed.social 3 points 3 months ago

Good to hear; I like their vibe. I wish it would have errored out instead of fucking with me, but thats tech for you lol. Sitting in the infinite captcha queue, I still feel more respected than I do every time I open discord lol.

[–] BlameTheAntifa@lemmy.world 8 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

The Discord news is hugging them to death. If you get past the captchas the email verification takes 24h to arrive and is expired when it does. It’s fine. I’m patient.

[–] SaveTheTuaHawk@lemmy.ca 6 points 3 months ago

Welcome to Lemmy, where there are easy open alternatives that don't actually work or need 300 lines of new code weekly.

[–] Soapbox@lemmy.zip 3 points 3 months ago

I had the same issue the other day when I tried to check it out. I think they don't like VPNs.

[–] grandel@lemmy.ml 3 points 3 months ago