this post was submitted on 21 Feb 2026
19 points (91.3% liked)

Electric Vehicles

2390 readers
211 users here now

Overview:

Electric Vehicles are a key part of our tomorrow and how we get there. If we can get all the fossil fuel vehicles off our roads, out of our seas and out of our skies, we'll have a much better environment. This community is where we discuss the various different vehicles and news stories regarding electric transportation.


Related communities:


founded 2 years ago
MODERATORS
 

Comparing costs between Western and Chinese automakers in China shows that subsidies matter, but they’re only part of the story. Chinese carmakers benefit from fundamentally lower cost structures, driven by tighter control over their supply chains and a stronger focus on the China market—both of which significantly reduce operating costs. They also make more aggressive use of supplier-backed financing

top 11 comments
sorted by: hot top controversial new old
[–] artyom@piefed.social 5 points 1 day ago

Nothing in here about IP theft or slave labor. Awful suspicious.

[–] resipsaloquitur@lemmy.world 20 points 1 day ago (3 children)

Government subsidies.

Also, they might be selling your data.

[–] minorkeys@lemmy.world 8 points 1 day ago

Also may have stolen rnd instead of doing it themselves. May have resources locally not sources abroad, might have slightly different labour laws that allow more productivity without compensation, maybe lower wages? Could be a combination of lots of reasons.

[–] Lemmyoutofhere@lemmy.ca 7 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Just like every US manufacturer.

[–] resipsaloquitur@lemmy.world 8 points 1 day ago (3 children)

I don't know if you heard about Elon and Donald's lovers' quarrel, but there's no more US government EV subisidies.

[–] halcyoncmdr@piefed.social 8 points 1 day ago

Do you honestly believe that there weren't any car subsidies before EVs? They may not be as direct as the recent EV subsidies, but there are billions of dollars artificially propping up the industry.

The US spends over $660 Billion annually on fossil fuel subsidies, a massive chunk of that is related to vehicle fuels. An estimated $20k per gas vehicle over its lifetime.

[–] Lemmyoutofhere@lemmy.ca 7 points 1 day ago (1 children)

How about the $60 billion bailouts GM received that they never paid back?

[–] Serinus@lemmy.world 1 points 1 day ago

I thought they did pay those back.

[–] Steve 3 points 1 day ago

I believe they're referring to the harvesting and sale of user data.

[–] fubarx@lemmy.world 4 points 1 day ago

Chinese manufacturers look like they've figured out vertical integration and manufacturing automation. BYD makes a TON of items themselves, from battery to drive-trains, tires, telematics, sensors, etc. And they can iterate FAST. It also means their battery division sells to the car division at cost, whereas a different manufacturer would have to pay cost + profit. Also, robots.

There's no way a Ford, Toyota, or VW will ever go back to making their own components.